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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 110 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How that MIGHT change things?

Just look at every other tech company in the space that’s gone public to see how it WILL change things. It’s not a mystery at this point.

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The real question is how do you enshittify a product that is already shit?

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Let the final enshitification commence

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is discord not enshitty?

I open it and it updates 6 times, then I get a full page ad for nitro. Then all the settings push nitro. And all the “servers” push nitro. 

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's the best at what it does, but had been getting shitty in the way you described. However, it's free and they have to support it somehow. I'll put up with the nitro pushing and understand that's my cost of doing business. If they go public, I'll probably actively start looking for an alternative, because that always kills a product and it will for sure mean "AI" will be forced into it.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's the best at what it does…

Locking data away from search engines so that unless you’re in that little fiefdom you don’t get the information.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

Probably that too, but specifically the ability to spin up a private space to communicate with people for things like video games. Anyone that's using it as their means of customer service is an idiot.

Apparently I struck a chord with my post, so I'm curious what is better than discord, and free that made my statement controversial?

Also, I don't see locking data from search engines as a bad thing. The fediverse isn't search engine searchable either and Google, bing, etc, don't natively have the right to index private data.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, I don’t see locking data from search engines as a bad thing. The fediverse isn’t search engine searchable either

The fediverse not being searchable is one of the biggest flaws with it, and make it similarly ephemeral to Discord, except its actually worse because the sizes of communities are just in that goldilocks area of awfulness where there are echo chambers, and people are rude and toxic. Whatsmore, availability due to the small size is relatively mediocre.

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[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

And preventing any internet archiving so any and all information on it is lost whenever the server is deleted. It never should have been used for anything but game chat.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

However, it’s free and they have to support it somehow.

These arguments might just give me an aneurysm.

This has let so many horrible free to play games off the hook while they literally make billions in profits and have astounding profit margins.

Discord makes money.

In a non hyper greed infested world, they could simply coast at the level of wealth they are at now, still making free money for their investors, paying their workers, and improving the service, without making peoples lives shittier.

There is no reason to justify this shit.

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[–] Nikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

discord is one of those things i struggle to find an alternative to. not because i lack the skill to do it myself or to make something else do the same tasks, but because all my friends who aren't as techy as me or big servers i like talking to wouldnt migrate.

having seen its decline since 2016, sooner or later ill have to make the jump but its gonna be harder than ditching google or microsoft because of the community aspect of it.

[–] goferking0 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And so many things using it instead of a forum for information or questions

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It’s especially bizzare when git repos for “open source corporate alternative” type software uses it over their own repo’s issue trackers and forums.

WTF

They want the social media engagement, I guess. But still. It’s ridiculous how much of a blind spot folks have for it.

It also makes giving or getting any kind of support a hellish time sink, but that’s almost besides the point…

[–] prex@aussie.zone 11 points 2 months ago

It is an insane choice for a support tool.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It will inevitably focus more on pleasing its public investors than anything else, therefore enshittification.

Maybe Steam/Valve is a unicorn, but it's not publicly traded and it's doing just fine.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

It is a unicorn. I dread the day Gaben dies and Valve ends up going public. It feels like the last bastion of decent online services.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Valve’s margins are almost criminal as-is. They make cash hand over fist, and they’re basically a monopoly already.

…So not much might actually change, at least at first?

But this why they don’t need to go public. They have plenty of cash. And it’d just shrink the slice of profit Valve’s owners get.

Still, even private, I’m afraid of what Steam might look like if big competitors like EGS and Microsoft footgun themselves out of the market, and GoG fades away due to their DRM-free policy.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"I wish all my friends would leave discord and go to an alternative chat platform"

The monkey paw curls and all your friends move to MS Teams.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 months ago

I'm guessing this will lead to more things being locked behind their subscription model. Ransoming core features for cash is the standard template of this process.

[–] VeloRama@feddit.org 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

what practical alternatives are out there? every gaming and streaming community seems to use discord, but i hate it on the basis of it being an enshittified, proprietary walled garden.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)
[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

This will not take off until their native apps release and support self hosted rooms.

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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

None. Closest is Matrix, and it sucks for that purpose because it's more like Slack.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This news comes immediately after they floated the idea of embedding AI, you say?

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago

Pretty much immediately after yeah

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well this gives me time to start my own Mumble server now

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[–] Dojan@pawb.social 9 points 2 months ago

Yes, finally! I’m ready for this shitty platform to fucking die already.

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

let the enshittification continue

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I genuinely do not know how that would change anything. It‘s already monetized thoroughly. They will just add even more ad campaign quests and stuff which you can ignore.

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Have you not seen the world? Everything, no matter how horrific, can always get infinitely worse.

The PIF could buy it and ban gay people. Israel could buy it and persecute people against genocide. A rich right wing billionaire could buy it and force even more nazi memes upon the youth. They could make a monetized limit to how many servers one can join that is purposefully below any sane reasonable or normal level. They could make PMs pay per message.

There are infinite ways it can get worse. Infinite.

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Until they lock it up where you can't. Or they'll decide on selling data and injecting ads into your convos or streams.

In other words this hasn't been enshittified to the max yet at all. There are new and horrible depths to explore.

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wonder what’ll be next after Discord enshittifies and alienates all the current users.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago

There's like 4 contenders, but all missing the crucial thing, critical mass of users

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