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[–] j_elgato@leminal.space 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"died after guards held him down and he stopped breathing"

Fucks sake AP, what's with the passive voice here? Was he holding his fucking breath??

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's unfortunate but usually wording like that is intentional and necessary, I.E if you say "mother fuckers murdered him" you'll get sued.

[–] j_elgato@leminal.space 2 points 2 days ago

Lot of grey area this side of libel, especially for active v passive voice.

The other one is when an underage suspect is a person of color you get "17 year old man" rather than "17 year old minor/child/student/driver/suspected victim of police brutality" etc..

[–] chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

Mmm, I smell money. Capitalism is the problem.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A couple caveats

  1. this only applies if you're a trusted news source - musk or trump could say this tomorrow and would win the case because they're known liars. The implication here is that anyone that can legally get away with saying shit any other way is either a small potato, known liar or if its irrefutable truth.

  2. I think in this case, specifically, they could probably say he was murdered by somebody because they already said homocide in the title

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'm not saying they're correct in not calling it that, or that the system necessarily works that way, but they'll have lawyers to look over everything in these sorts of scenarios and they'll, usually, ask to play it safe.

Also, re point 2, it's different to say "autopsy says it's homicide" vs the paper/journalist saying that they were murdered. Unless it's legally ruled as such (judge/court case), the news agency could be liable if they said it themselves. The headline is essentially just quoting someone else.

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Too bad nothing will be done about it.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago

paper is patient

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This show ain't over, yet. You got a crystal ball?

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 days ago

No but I’ve got several decades of unchecked police criminality and brutality that paint a pretty clear picture of how this will go.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

"The answer is not to defund the police. It's to fund the police." -Biden

[–] CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the 55-year-old father of four was attempting suicide and the staff tried to save him.

...save him...

for themselves

[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 3 points 2 days ago

Guaranteed they're lying. They're just trying to act like it doesn't matter that they murdered him because he was trying to kill himself anyway.

[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

There is a WITNESS to his murder, who was mentioned in earlier articles. This needs to mean something.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

"I'll do it! I'm gonna jump!"

Let me save you by giving you a slight push.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

As did Epstein.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow, so they strangle people to death now, too. Great.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Its a waste of manpower honestly. Maybe some sort of gas would be more efficient than individual stranglings.

Tap for spoilerPlease dont tell me this needs the sarcasm tag

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Maybe some kind of laser like in War of the Worlds. Bzzzzrrrreooong

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

MDCGA
Making Death Camps Great Again.

Land of the free, home of the brave.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And those braindead maga fucks cheer it on. "Well he shouldn't have been illegal!" "He should've never come here in the first place!"

As if any of those excuses justify fucking murder.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

They're fine to execute civilians because they disobey them.

Judge, jury and executioner.

No other country in the world would accept this.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm just waiting for a Grok generated video of another detainee doing it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

ms dog annihilator noem, will ssay he was a violent immigrant.

[–] jim@lemmy.org 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Maybe another protest sign will do the trick

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like that my Lemmy app shows a little baby chick 🐣 icon next to brand new accounts. Super handy.

[–] PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I like that I have you tagged as “jerk” super handy

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

WHY I OUGHTA!

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Has anyone tried sending a sternly written letter suggesting body cameras during state sponsored chokings?

[–] username123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Protest signs are one step up from protest comments, though I agree that the pattern needs progression across the board. 

[–] jim@lemmy.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure but this online, so comments are what we have in this space.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

and it's the only space you take any action within

[–] PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Way to tell on yourself, I never made the claim you did. If all your doing is commenting, you're doing nothing.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

WHOA, Whoa, whoa. I have it on good authority that most lemmy commenters think commenting takes lots of effort. -This is based on my experience of telling people on here that "I couldn't care less" about certain issues and saying "commenting on lemmy takes next to no effort." Boy did those people try to convince me I was wrong.

[–] username123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Can't we all just be co-protesters and get along? We need to fight the Nazis with a care bear stare at the very least. 

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago

Died of asphyxiation. grrr. There's a heap of justice waiting to land on somebody. Several somebodies.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ice out here murdering people in their concentration camps-

New York court records show Lunas Campos was convicted in 2003 of sexual contact with a person under 11, a felony for which he was sentenced to one year in jail and placed on the state’s sex offender registry.

Actually I'll take a pass, I'll get upset at the next one

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Everyone deserves due process no matter how heinous they are. If someone is denied due process, no one has due process.

Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I'm perfectly ok with denying them due process

[–] treesquid@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Congrats, Trump has just designated you a Nazi ringleader, now you don't get due process. You say it isn't true, but how do you prove it if you aren't given due process? See how this is always fucking stupid? Everyone gets due process or nobody does.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Except that "Trump designating anyone as anything" really shouldn't mean shit if we still had a nation that had laws. Why the fuck are we talking about due process?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And how is that different than what's happening right now? They've already decided that anyone who's trans or anti capitalist is a."terrorist"

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Except for the Nazi ringleaders, I’m perfectly ok with denying them due process

Sadly even Nazi ringleaders, otherwise Republicans will simply label those protesting ICE as "Nazi ringleaders" to deny them due process. I'm a big fan of the due process that Nazi's received in Nuremberg and the outcome of those trial against those assholes.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Nuremberg barely did anything to them sadly. They all fled to Argentina and the US

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is the exact shit they want. They probably chose to murder this dude specifically for exactly this reason.

Don't fall for it.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

speaking as someone who was raped as a child, you don't get to tell me shit. It's illegal, and I want the officers held responsible, BUT, I don't care about child rapists getting murdered. Couldn't care less, actually. Hope it happens to all of them.