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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Aka if a driver hits you and you aren't in uniform you get injury and a fine and some complementary salt to pour in any open wounds.

[–] Balldowern@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They should create a law that makes it legal for civilians to assassinate the drivers of vehicles who veer into bike lanes.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Ninja rocks, in minecraft

[–] bassad@jlai.lu 14 points 18 hours ago

Maybe distracted driving should be made criminal offense first, and controls on drivers increased.

2 days ago a car driver in front of me was watching a skiing contest on his phone on the dashboard, last year I followed one who was playing candy crush.

I'm glad my daily commute is 80% on bike paths separated from car traffic, those 20% are why my kids can't go to school with their bikes and my wife does not take her bike.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

This is how I go pickup milk in the mornings. /s

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If they're going to do that, they should also go back to requiring motor cars to be preceded by an attendant on foot, waving a red flag.

You know, for safety.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

This one actually makes sense as cars and automobiles are technically heavy machinery. Thus so, they should technically at all times be operated with a spotter outside of the vehicle at all times.

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[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 16 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

The thing is that the bicycle is the only means of transport for medium distances which statistically makes your life longer, not shorter.

The reasons are the health effects of cycling, compared to the health effects of sitting in a car and not doing daily excercise. The number one cause of death is cardiovascular diseases, which are also caused by lack if excercise. These risks are far larger than the risk of accidents.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If road safety is so important, it should also be mandatory for passengers and drivers to wear helmets.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is fucked and no way something like this should pass.

Also if a cyclist is expected to wear a helmet and high reflection vest then car drivers should be required to do the same, windows should also be completely down with no music playing what so ever. If you go a cellphone or you are eating a burger or snack bar straight to jail for attempted manslaughter.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Im thinking the equivalent would be cars have hi visibility paint. I hate cars with matt colors matching the road. Can't even seen them without the lights on.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Just because they are being pedantic with their proposed regulations, I suggested this up thread.

Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Require cars to have a governor that limits speed, either geofenced to anywhere cyclists/ pedestrians are common, or high density, (like within a town) or make them have self driving car like 'AI' cameras, that limit speed when peds/ cyclists are within sight, and either alarm/ brake whenever one comes within 10'.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

As an Australian who has lived with compulsory helmets for decades I think wearing a helmet and high vis is probably bare minimum if you have to share with cars and not nearly enough if you have to use door lanes and deal with Ford Rangers and garbage trucks.

Unfortunately once you go down this route cycling partipation drops and its a net fail for public health.

Sedate cycling on seperated pathways and through parks gets lumped in with high risk road cycling. It ends up being completely inappropriate for the type of cycling most people would like to do (not high risk vehicular cycling).

Why bother building expensive dedicated safe infrastructure when people have a magical inch of styrofoam on their noggins and a yellow shirt to protect them from 2 tonnes of murder machine.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

"high risk" is relative. cycling is safe.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

And then there's downhill mountain biking which I like to call "Cycling, with injuries".

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Highest risk cycling is motor vehicles not following the rules. If cyclists safety is the priority, educate other drivers, and enforce penalties.

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Y'all are missing the key point, if the headline and my understanding are to be believed. They're proposing making it a CRIMINAL offense, not a fine you misdemeanor, but a can put you in jail criminal offense (felony for you yanks), that's way over the top.

[–] nodiratime@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

They want to heavily disincentivice any cycling.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Also worth noting not are people on a bicycle are "cyclists", just like not all people in a car are "race car drivers".

There's various types of bicycle, such as riding for pleasure, casual riding, entertainment, or racing. Not to mention the various ages of bicyclists. These distinctions are important, just as much as safe well designed infrastructure for all roadway users, weather they are on foot, or a bicycle, or in a car.

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

The word cyclist if perfectly fine to describe someone who rides a bicycle without any conotations about racing.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 43 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Why does the rider need to be visible? Surely if the bike is visible that is enough. Part of why my bike has bright lights on it. You can't see me? Sure, but you can see the bike, avoid that and everything is fine.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Germany made blinking bike lights illegal because studies show that drunk motorists target fixate on them :/

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[–] huppakee@piefed.social 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When there are road works they tend to close the high way or at least some lanes because a hi vis jacket doesn't protect you against speeding lunatics.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 29 points 1 day ago (13 children)

There are also a lot of photos of hi-vis roadworks and emergency vehicles that motorists have crashed into. It's almost like it's not visibility that's the problem…

[–] guywithadeathwish@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I recall there being a phenomenon where drivers brains actually filter out hi-vis jackets as "unimportant data" because we see them so much.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 2 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, the "urban camouflage" theory. Or they expect us to be slow or static like a roadworker or emergency worker and so botch the overtake.

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[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is this the same Ireland where a TD couldn't get into Dublin to propose a congestion-mitigation policy to the Dáil Éireann because he was stuck in a traffic jam for THREE AND A HALF HOURS? But, yeah, go ahead, discourage bicycling with punitive laws. What could go wrong?

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