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[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's just a regular ol' smoke grenade like the military uses for signaling. At least so say some people on the ground in Minneapolis who recovered one of the canisters.

[–] n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

tldr

We don't know what gas grenade it is or what's in it. But there is old data from grenades that look similar, and those old grenades are safer than normal tear gas grenades.

But we don't actually know what they are. They could be anything.

[–] TheOneAndOnly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Thank you. It's missing everything someone would expect to be explained in the article. Very click-baity. I'm thinking MJ should not have published this one.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago

Whatever this is, tear gas, cs gas, is not harmless as is often thought. It causes permanent damage, and is actually a nerve agent, different than what we call nerve agents, but it hits pain receptors in nerves.

Likewise pepper spray would not cause permanent damage but I heard it is often mixed with pfas and other poisonous shit but idk on that source, the tear gas bit was in propublica in 2020 during the blm protests.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“The green dyed smoke suggests high toxicity to protesters,” he adds, “but the effect is more psychological.”

This isn't saying that it's not toxic or dangerous, it's just pointing out that once again they are adding in a layer of purely psychological terrorism, which should be of no surprise to anyone who knows how much these pathetic evil fuckers rely on kayfabe. The green dye is added for a dramatic flair.

They're dangerous, and you can't underestimate them, but don't forget they're hoping to put you in trauma by being as fucking overblown and dramatic as possible. Consider it a deliberate cutesy attempt to add insult to injury for the benefit of their own ego.

If you know how mentally ill narcissists operate, you should understand the thrill they get from constantly terrifying a captive audience.

They're not even the first dramatic little bitches to use green gas. They just ripped off the fucking Joker and Smylex because nothing they do is ever original.

Joker's Parade: Batman(1989)

The Minnesota tribune article calls out the manufacturer directly: https://www.startribune.com/border-patrol-greg-bovino-smoke-canister-chemical-spray-ice-protests-observers-minneapolis-dhs/601568184

Luhmann took video of one of the empty smoke canisters, which is labeled as “pocket tactical green smoke,” made by the company Defense Technology. The back states that it should be used only by “trained law enforcement, correctional or military personnel.”

Below that, it states that anyone using the canister “should be trained in deployment, decontamination and first aid procedures.”

Defense Technology (and their shareholders) should be having their names spread far and wide for selling weapons to terrorists murdering American men and women. Hit them and all their enablers in their fucking pockets.

https://business.casperwyoming.org/list/member/defense-technology-llc-1232

Here is the company's contact information including phone number, fax, and address for domestic sales in Casper Wyoming. They should open bright and early Monday morning so give them a jangle at (307) 235-2136 and let them know if you're satisfied with their products.

[–] PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org 41 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whatever it is, every ice agent should be forced into a room filled with it.

[–] YodaDaCoda@aussie.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

I can't speak to their training processes, but I went through a room full of tear gas during my Navy CBRN training and it was not particularly pleasant but quite survivable. I'm not sure such mild conditions are quite what's needed in the case of ICE agents.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And then leave em there. Like, just lock the door and walk away.

[–] PointlessProtestAgainstTheMachine@lemmy.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right. No food. No water. Not my problem.

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I don’t think food and water would be the issue at that point

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 40 points 1 day ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

If you can see it, it's easier to blow back with a leaf blower.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's proprietary Soylent Green flavoring.

They are seasoning.

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Greg Bovino is the Green Goblin!

Spider Man reboot to an all new grittier universe!

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

all new ~~grittier~~ griftier universe!

[–] Econode@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 day ago

Is this too serious for you to treat it seriously (tbf everyone has different coping mechanisms) or why are you mocking the situation?

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It really should be said that this expert is talking out of his ass here. He hasn't positively identified the specific gas being used, just a similar product by the same manufacturer, and he definitely hasn't actually measured nor tested the gas at the scene. It's an educated guess, but still a guess.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What you described isn't "talking out of his ass". It's making a logical hypotheses based on the info provided. You even contradict yourself by calling it an educated guess.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I say that because, from a safety perspective, his advice should absolutely not be relied on when determining whether or not the gas currently being used is safe.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

From a safety perspective, anyone planning to be on the fontlines should have good ppe and expect the worst atp

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Technically you're right, I guess.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting choice of a colour for the smoke grenades they have.

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Just need to find spider man. If he can't, well innocent bystanders are just collateral damage.