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Poor Lonnie. May he cry himself to sleep on his MyPillow tonight.

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 21 minutes ago

And let me guess, stonk went up still?

It's not about the companies, it's a gamble stock, divorced from the performance of the company.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 minutes ago

Not good enough. Must try harder to bankrult Tesla.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I honestly don't know how Musks companies work.

Tesla makes cars. Cars don't sell, so profit drops. Musk uses SpaceX to buy Teslas. Tesla's profit declines, Musk says it's an AI company, then buys AI from his other AI company, which he funded from Tesla stock. Musk buys Twitter, twitter goes down in value. Musk buys Twitter from himself using xAI, for higher than its market value, then boasts stock gains?

So now Tesla is going to buy AI from himself, and build robots that were just pantomimed guys in suits... and somehow... profit???

I don't know what the fuck is going on in this world. But I would absolutely love to see Tesla's stock drop and all of this made up debt-financing fall apart like the house of cards it is. However, Musk saying "we're making robots now" seems to have nicely papered over what should be a massive stock decline. After his last one "Tesla isn't a car company, it's an AI company" now it's "Tesla isn't an AI company, it's a factory company".

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 minutes ago

It's simple in its principal, really..

  • you have multiple companies
  • one company (A) have some supply for some product
  • on the other company (B), you create demand for that product (i.e. for its operation)
  • thus, under your control, you make company A and B enter a trade agreement
  • as someone who brokered that deal, you get rewarded (e.g. from brokerage fee, or commision)
  • sometimes, by having a massive increase in sales, the stock for company A would increase, thus you can sell a little bit of it, which you can later buy back after the stock price goes back down
  • profit

Some facts:

  • even though they're your companies, you are a separate entity from them, and they are each its own entity
  • the money comes from the investors as well as profit, remember that they are separate
  • no, you cannot just take all the companies' money, since even though they're yours, there are other people at stake

So you basically come up with some excuse for moving stuff around, then you come up with some excuse to siphon off some of that good stuff.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

He’s Elizabeth Holmes on a global scale. He grifts money from the governments

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 2 points 1 hour ago

The market will stay irrational longer than you can maintain liquidity...

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

And yet he is still gaining wealth. Needs to be stopped. With a bullet.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 1 points 38 minutes ago

Wow, that escalated quickly.
No, he needs to be stopped by a noose. Slowly.
But he shouldn't die like that...no, the guillotine should be used.
Use the noose to lower him into the guillotine. Slowly.

Wait, I was being hasty...maybe a gut shot could also be incorporated?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago
[–] kurmudgeon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

Good, a well deserved ass-beating to the Nazi-in-chief. Fuck Elon and his company.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Guess Elon chose the right time for his cash payout then.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

You love to see it.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 48 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Everyone should be cutting Tesla, Google, Microsoft, apple, meta etc etc out of their lives as much as possible.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

And their portfolios.

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[–] JackDark@lemmy.world 72 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Investors largely expected the decline in sales in Tesla’s fourth quarter and full-year results for 2025, and the company beat Wall Street’s estimates for earnings and revenue, sending shares up in after-market trading Wednesday.

Remember, this is talking about profits, not revenue. They're still making profit. They did shit profits, but it was more than people expected them to make, so shares went up. Fuck Tesla.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Another way of saying it is that shares had already gone down because this was expected. When it wasn’t quite as bad as expected, they got a little bump back.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 28 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Fucking stocks are like gambling. There's no rhyme or reason to them.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Welcome to the vibe based economy.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 19 minutes ago

EcOnOmIcS iS a ScIeNcE!

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

If the decline was expected, that had already affected the stock price. If you look ONLY at what happens on the day that expectation is finally official, in writing, then yes it’s counterintuitive. But it makes perfect sense that if a huge decline was already built into the price, then that price would rise a little when it’s found out that the decline wasn’t as bad as expected.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Thats how its supposed to work.

That is absolutely not how it actually is working.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 hours ago

Especially a meme stock like tesla

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yea, I’m in transition from Apple myself. I’m working on swapping out HomePods next. I have homeassistant. I have a GPU in a server in a nice cool basement. Let’s do this.

[–] iamdefinitelyoverthirteen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

I thought we were Lemmings :(

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 56 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

they had profits in 2025? too many ok with buying nazi products

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 1 points 26 minutes ago

People need to get their teslas branded with a fucking swastika, Tarantino style.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

I rode in a Tesla last week. Some of the tech is better than what I've experienced in other vehicles. To be fair, a lot of the controls are way worse and key functions are buried in screens and menus that are difficult to find.

I'll never own a Tesla, but I do hope the always on wireframe view of everything around you comes to other vehicles. It's way easier to see pedestrians and cross traffic in a parking spot on that screen than it is the 360 camera view on our new Traverse which is only available in reverse and for a few seconds after shifting to forward.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've been considering getting an electric car, and have been researching good models, and I can't believe how many places are still recommending Tesla. I know the fediverse is far lefter than most other places, but I thought at the very least the general population had stopped trusting Musk and his scams.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

I switched all my EVs over to GM-related products and, despite a variety of differences, some good some bad, I am overall happy and fine with the change.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 7 hours ago

Way too many, fuck that Nazi and his shit company

[–] morto@piefed.social 16 points 6 hours ago

A lot of people are too alienated from everything, or can't make relationships between brands and what's behind them, because everything not directly visible in front of us is too abstract for them, and there's those who are like "all brands are terrible, it won't make any difference anyway". Well, and there's the nazi sympathizers...

[–] artyom@piefed.social 39 points 7 hours ago (8 children)
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[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 27 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

Every 3rd car is a Tesla where I am. Many of which are newer models. At this point I feel like people are unable to vote with their wallet.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There’s definitely a breed of douche bag out there whose entire justification is “well I can’t quite afford the Rivian…”

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Same. Bay Area?

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 11 points 6 hours ago (8 children)

To be honest, coming from a near-launch Tesla Model 3 into the current EV market... most alternatives available in the US suck for various reasons.

I had a Polestar 3, which was great, until the AC was inconsistent on the Driver side. Only had it for 45 days before it was in for Service at Volvo 150 miles away... And has been there since last April. Still paying on it every month and having to maintain insurance... I'm still trying to get it returned as a lemon via lawyers now nearly 9 months later. In the interim I went through several Volvo, Kia, Mercedes, and Hyundai EV rentals, and talking to a coworker who has an EV Mustang. All of them felt like EV afterthoughts made just so they could say they have EV options.

The American brands almost exclusively use the same base vehicles and even interiors as their non-EV options and thus there are arbitrary things that just don't need to be there and make it feel like they're just making a car to say they have one (which is exactly what they're doing).

For instance, my biggest pet peeve is having a Start/Stop button as if the thing still had an engine. There's no need to have it since the cars are on all the time anyway. Its just an unnecessary step both when getting in and leaving the car. And it artificially prevents you from interacting with the vehicle like rolling down windows or the roof cover while it's "off". It's small, but just shows it wasn't designed to be an EV, they just took the same shit from before and dropped an EV powertrain in and called it a day.

Several brands also use the same outsourced platform like GM's Ultima platform. So every one of those vehicles feels the same regardless of the brand it's under, or the slightly different exteriors. The interiors are nearly identical and use GM parts regardless of brand. The Honda Prologue that I got after my Model 3 while waiting to see about new offerings in a few years, doesn't feel like a Honda at all. It drives and feels like a Chevy Blazer. Because it is.

The only EVs I've driven that actually felt like they took advantage of being an EV were from EV companies, no legacy automakers. Tesla, Polestar, Lucid, Rivian. Everyone else the vehicle felt like an afterthought, especially after driving a Tesla for nearly 5 years, and those were often at 1.5-2x the cost for fewer bells and whistles. My current Prologue purchased before the EV credits went away was almost the same cost as my Model 3 back in 2018, and it's nowhere near the same quality or capability. And that's saying something if you know Tesla quality.

[–] jdhdbdk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I am from Europe where Teslas are less prevalent. And I bought an Hyundai Ioniq 6 and I am really happy with it. Good range, large interior, good assistance systems. I also tested the id.3, a Volvo and an Audi and in my opinion they all were totally fine too.

I have the car now for 3 years and only had a little problem with a non working AC which was promptly fixed. In comparison friends who have a Tesla have much more mechanical problems with their cars and if they need a repair, they have much longer waiting times.

In conclusion I am really happy with an EV by a legacy car maker and recommend the Ioniq 6!

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

You'll soon be able to just go buy a BYD in Canada like the rest of the world.

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[–] Atropos@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

Fucking outstanding, but we can do better. Down with swasticars.

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