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North Carolina Republicans create "secret police force" (popular.info)

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[-] geekworking@lemmy.world 228 points 11 months ago

This includes the private residences of subcontractors and contractors who run businesses out of their homes

Even more crazy is that you can't tell anyone you've been raided, including seeking or talking to legal counsel.

So you technically are denied legal counsel if you are targeted by a blatently unconstitutional search.

And it's legal for them to destroy any incriminating records that they want at any time.

Unlimited power to target whoever they want and no legal recourse.

Welcome to Germany 1935.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 109 points 11 months ago

This law is categorically unconstitutional. It is a prima facie contradiction of multiple specific amendments in the bill of rights. This will certainly be thrown out - even hard-right judges won’t be able to justify this. It’s clearly not reasonable in the slightest.

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 11 months ago

So are the lawnakers complete morons or do they have an ulterior motive?

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 47 points 11 months ago

Yes.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Their motives are strictly unconstitutional and pure evil. Republicans want their own private gestapo.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 20 points 11 months ago

It's political theatre. If it passes, they get a Gestapo. If it is thrown out (likely), they can chum the waters and get their base frothing about "woke judges" or some shit.

Either way, they win.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 16 points 11 months ago

Complete morons or performative assholes, you say?

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

even hard-right judges won’t be able to justify this.

They don't have to justify anything any more. You should stop pretending the constitution matters.

[-] TruTollTroll@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

It does matter! It matters to us... unfortunately totalitarianism has taken control and the AC along with the GOP do not care... the mask is off.... it is now time for the 2nd amendment to be actually enacted by a well regulated militia who protects the constitution as the 2nd amendment laid out

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

even hard-right judges won’t be able to justify this. It’s clearly not reasonable in the slightest.

I dunno about that, Supreme Court looking pretty right wing lately

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

This will be a federal conservative policy soon enough

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Reminds me more of Eastern Germany to be honest. But yeah, that's fucked up no matter where it happened before.

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 136 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Moreover, Gov Ops staff will be authorized to enter “any building or facility” owned or leased by a state or non-state entity without a judicial warrant.

That sounds unconstitutional. I mean, the whole thing sounds unconstitutional but that especially.

[-] root_beer@midwest.social 34 points 11 months ago

Repealing the fourth amendment will be a plank on the GOP platform

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The 4th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 19th.... hell, all of them except the 2nd, really.

That's why a Constitutional Convention in the present climate scares the absolute shit out of me.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

They absolutely will go after the Second Amendment when they are ready to.

"Just take the guns. Due process later." - Donald Trump

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago

Conservative: "But I'm one of you!"

Republican: "LMAO!"

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago

Lol yeah that’s 100% going to get thrown out in court.

[-] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 127 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Oh, look. The party of Nazi apologists is passing laws to make their own Gestapo. But everyone comparing them to Nazis are the real problem.

[-] root_beer@midwest.social 23 points 11 months ago

That’s when you respond saying “fine, NKVD then, you guys are like the Soviets”

See what the assholes say then

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 67 points 11 months ago

seems like a violation of the 4th amendment but knowing the current supreme court they'll rule it doesn't apply to state laws (but the 2nd amendment does!)

[-] PostmodernPythia@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago

The constitution only applies when the billionaires giving them huge bribes say it does. Couldn’t be simpler.

[-] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Moreover, Gov Ops staff will be authorized to enter “any building or facility” owned or leased by a state or non-state entity without a judicial warrant. This includes the private residences of subcontractors and contractors [emphasis mine] who run businesses out of their homes, lawmakers say.

As if the name isn't hilariously evil enough...

This would have been front-page news a decade or two ago. So far out as to be unbelievable except by the lunatic fringe. "Nah, the government would never go that far."

Full fucking stop. No government agent is coming in my home without a judicial warrant. I am not a big man. I am not a tough man. I AM able to enforce that statement. We'll play Ruby Ridge II up in here come to that.

Imagine conservatives trying to spin that shit.

Police: "Well the law says we can kick his door down and take his shit without approval from the judiciary. So we tried. And the mad man turned his front door frame into a hell storm of lead!"

Y'all liberals better pull your head out your ass in a fucking hurry. Fascism is here, now, today. If you can't defend yourself, you are not peaceful, you are harmless.

(And I know, I'm old, so it's easier to throw my life down. But I'm not getting on the concentration camp train.)

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Okay, for those of us that don't want to go down in a hail of bullets, what is the option if we wanted to survive? Any good countries to look at moving to?

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 29 points 11 months ago

chuckles I'm in danger.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 28 points 11 months ago

Benjamin...get the Musket.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago

Sounds like someone is gearing up to steal a fuckton of money and wants power over any investigation that might stem from it.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

So more nazi stuff coming out of the GOP. What's wrong with you America

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 11 months ago

Decades of siding with fascists over even milquetoast socialists, including when NATO member Greece got couped by its own military.

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 20 points 11 months ago

That rat fuck Tim Moore.

[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

With some people all you need is one look and think "that guy is a awful person and shouldn't be anywhere near dictating rules for other people." and this guy is one of them. Though to be fair that's like 95% of elected Republicans as well

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

No national sources on this?

Is this one local? I don't know of it. https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article279613749.html

Truthout is the best source I could find.

https://truthout.org/articles/north-carolina-gop-passed-budget-creates-secret-police-critics-warn/

[-] greenfish@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

That's a newspaper based in Raleigh, reputable as such things go. Source: I live nearby

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 10 points 11 months ago

Found this Newsweek article just now:

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-secret-police-sparks-fight-democrats-1831481

[-] thisbenzingring 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Truthout is a good source. You know they are good because Karl Rove purposely gave them bad information so Republicans could come back and disparage the source.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

We need more Republicans put in prison for stuff like this.

[-] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

That's pretty messed up

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Smash Fascism

[-] Ibex0@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

$300 billion ain't right.

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[-] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Something something shall give no quarter to.

[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Ur swastika is showing.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

🎶Load up on guns, and bring your friends...🎶

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