I mean to be fair, that's how prison is supposed to work. Rehabilitate the person so after, they're fit to become a normal member of society again.
Of course, that's only the theory of a few enlightened people...
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I agree this is how prison should work. However, in my opinion this is not how driver's licenses should work. I think it should be possible to forfeit any chance of ever driving again.
Roughly agree.
Loosely related, I’ve been thinking recently that we really need to make it harder to get and keep a license. I’ve noticed a lot of absolutely terrible drivers don’t even realize they are driving badly. If they had to, say, pass a driving test every 3-5 years then someone would force them to listen to exactly what they are doing wrong, and keep them from the streets until they fix it.
I wouldn't quite agree. Sure, a car can be used as a weapon, but that's not its primary function. I'm not aware of the exact case, but if prison rehabilitated him in a way that he no longer uses a car as a weapon, and that's his only driving-related offense, I really see no reason why he shouldn't get a driving license. Unfortunate as it may be, not being able to have a car is a severe disadvantage in a lot of areas.
I would agree with you if it was about a gun license. Having a gun is only useful as a weapon.
I don't know about England, but at least here in Denmark, many people who have served a sentence will get into a trade. Without a drivers license those jobs can be practically impossible to keep.
It seems only logical to me that if we have tests for people to earn the right to drive a car, then there should also be a possibility of forfeiting that right again.
I sort of get the gun argument but it's not airtight in my opinion. Guns too can be used in harmless ways (shooting as a sport) so by the same logic full rehabilitation would include getting a gun license back.
And sure not having a car can be a big disadvantage, but so is having a criminal record, and we don't stop jailing people because of that. Rehabilitation doesn't mean that all consequences of your crime are undone.
At least in my country, no one can know about your criminal record, so it's not a disadvantage. And it shouldn't be.
That is exactly how it should work and not nearly enough people recognize that. It's part of the social contract: You break the rules, you get punished. After the punishment, you are a full member of society again.
Otherwise you just get punished again and that should not be the case.
Fair enough, the whole point of the prison system is to rehabilitate people who commit a crime to hopefully minimise the risk that they'll commit crimes in the future, and return them to the world to be a net positive benefit to society from there on out.
If we lived in a world country where we assumed criminals could never be rehabilitated and would simply continue to commit crimes after their time in custody, why even keep them alive wasting time and resources? That system would benefit from simply executing all criminals on the spot.
Which would be insane.
No it would benefit from selling them as slave labor.
Probably got a bit too hot under that wig, smh.
He was given 21.5 years in prison, it's not gonna matter much if he can apply for a license after getting out from that. Looking at him, I'd say he's around 45-55, so 21.5 means he'll be aged to the point of more likely to fail the exam then pass it.
That judge's outfit looks completely goofy. That's not his real hair, right?
No it's traditional attire that judges wear here in the UK
i feel bad for the people who need to use it
I feel bad for the people being judged. Imagine keeping a straight face looking at the guy with a funny wig doing the most serious grown up job and pretending it's just normal.
That's his wools (white horsehair), hence the phrase 'pull the wool over his eyes'. They come from the reign of Charles II and have a symbolic purpose that shows both anonymity and authority.
I think only judges at Crown Courts would wear them these days. You wouldn't see them in magistrates courts or county courts.
They also used to be used in the 17th century to hide symptoms of diseases such as lice, hair loss, scabs etc.
Thanks for the explanation!
Imagine this mf tells you you're gonna die in prison.
Judge, your hi vis robe is distracting me.
Car brains doing car brain things.
He can apply….
This feels like we've buried the lead.
Would denying him a license stop him using a car to murder?
I'm sure he wouldn't want to break the traffic laws.