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Sylvestre Ledru who serves as the lead developer of the uutils project for the Rust Coreutils implementation presented at FOSDEM 2026 this weekend on this initiative. Ledru has spoken at FOSDEM in prior years on Rust Coreutils and this year's talk focused primarily on Ubuntu 25.10's adoption of it in place of GNU Coreutils.

Ledru's presentation covered the progress made on Rust Coreutils in recent times and Ubuntu 25.10's uptake of Rust Coreutils and continuing that for Ubuntu 26.04 LTS. While some bugs have been found as a result of it, they have been fixed rather quickly. Ledru's presentation also points out some of the popular trolling around Rust Coreutils and ultimately how many of those commenters have been proven wrong

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[–] duelistsage@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Going from GPL to a weaker license was a terrible idea and whoever supported it should be held accountable.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

GNU coreutils is not going anywhere or having its license be weakened.

But anyway, I am glad that you are brave enough to be willing to personally punish people for using a license that you do not prefer.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 5 points 10 hours ago

Rust Coreutils Continues Working Toward 100% GNU Compatibility, Proving Trolls Wrong

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Phoronix, you are the trolls.

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (15 children)

We like the Rust, we hate the cuck license. Simple.

[–] Maddier1993@programming.dev -3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You're a rube if you think corporations can't throw some money at interns do a rewrite in MIT and bypass GPL that way.

[–] duelistsage@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

So let them do that. Why should we be doing their dirty work for them?

Unless we're stupid.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 38 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Replace a perfectly usable GPL software for MIT? Nope. I used to fall for that ten years ago. The social infrastructure of software is more important than the exact tech used. The license is fundamental to that.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I wasn't aware that coreutils was going somewhere.

[–] mech@feddit.org 15 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The availability of a replacement with a permissive license allows businesses to use it without giving anything back to the community.
What this leads to in the long run is open source projects starved for resources, and businesses pouring their dev time only into their own business-specific forks, without sharing their code upstream.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

We've played this game with browser engines and we find ourselves in a world with no viable community-controlled browser.

Read a thread on rust forum about this and my impression is that most folks fall in two ideological categories. Either "No politic here" or some form of libertarianism. I understand where both come from as I've gone through some form of either, and I think both are transitional for many people. I used to roll my eyes hard at people making license arguments. We're past the point where tech corporations were playing nice with people. As they keep shitting on products and take more and more of people's work without returning anything, more and more people from those two camps would come to the realization that everything is political and the social infrastructure of open source - the infrastructure that gets more people to do labour for a project - is what creates and keeps open source alive over the long haul. The excitement that a new language or framewwok creates is fleeting. The GPL-MIT/BSD/Apache/etc divide isn't so much one of exact guarantees and legal rights, it is some of that, but more importantly it's a political statement of intent.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Businesses can already create their own forks of GPL-licensed software and not contribute their changes to the upstream project; in fact, they do not even have to share their code with anyone at all if they use it internally do not distribute binaries. However, they are incentivized to share their changes, even if they do not have to, because if they do not then merging upstream changes will become increasingly difficult.

[–] duelistsage@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Businesses can already create their own forks of GPL-licensed software and not contribute their changes to the upstream project

No they can't, at least not legally. Part of using GPL software is that you need to include the GPL with any changes you make.

It's the entire point of the license and the concept behind copyleft.

[–] bitcrafter@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Reread that quote, and you will see that I was saying that just because they are required to distribute the source code with binaries--which they are only required to do if they distribute binaries--does not mean that they have to take any steps to contribute the changes they've made to the upstream project.

[–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 day ago (40 children)

it still has a permissive license :(

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You are very right. While non-copyleft licences makes sense for some software (a game engine like Godot, for example, released under the MIT licence) it's absolutely awful for the coreutils.

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lol, very first pair of comments. I love phoronix sometimes.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

Ah, the duality of man...

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[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago (10 children)

If they could just use a real licence and even more copyleft (at least something, like EUPL, MPL or GPLv2)

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