this post was submitted on 05 Feb 2026
620 points (99.5% liked)

Technology

80723 readers
1270 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago

Literally stop publicizing this stuff until they've shown their entire hands

[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 207 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is really great, dont tell this to anyone!

They are still releasing more parts of the Epstein files!

Take the advice of Napoleon: Never interrupt the enemy while they are making a mistake!

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 114 points 1 day ago

yeah, I'm always a bit annoyed when people laught at the incompetence.

Let them.

Heck, some of it might even be intentional. Don't take away tools for leakers

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 128 points 1 day ago (3 children)

...it’s safe to say that Pam Bondi’s DoJ did not put its best and brightest on this (admittedly gargantuan) undertaking

Actually they did. It's just that their best and brightest are fairly dim.

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It could also have been incompetence as a form of resistance, for all we know, or a combination of both.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This. If I didn’t agree with what they’re doing (and I don’t) and I wanted to resist I would do my best to steer towards a reversible redaction method. Then just feign ignorance.

[–] Todd_cross@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago

Someone should write an update to the Simple Sabotage Field Manual.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Their best and brightest were fired or retired.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

Well it’s all the leftovers at this point. When the priority is loyalty, performance suffers.

[–] itsathursday@lemmy.world 166 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Amazing what a bit of knowledge, intelligence and competency can achieve.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 103 points 1 day ago

Inversely, it’s also amazing what a lack thereof cannot achieve, for instance, redacting publicized documents.

[–] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We just need those 76 page base64 printouts stuffed into captcha so we can crowdsource cracking them

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I actually like this idea a lot (the crowdfunding part)

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

crowdsource, not crowdfund. One is sharing the work, the other is sharing the cost.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that nitpick really necessary? I would be donating my time, that's my cost. So crowdfunded wouldn't even be wrong unless you believe your time to be worthless.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

It's not a nitpick for me but a relevant clarification to distinguish between two very different words.

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I tried to leave a comment, but it doesn't seem to be showing up there.

I'll just leave it here:

too tired to look into this, one suggestion though - since the hangup seems to be comparing an L and a 1, maybe you need to get into per-pixel measurements. This might be necessary if the effectiveness of ML or OCR models isn't at least 99.5% for a document containing thousands of ambiguous L's. Any inaccuracies from an ML or OCR model will leave you guessing 2^N candidates which becomes infeasible quickly. Maybe reverse engineering the font rendering by creating an exact replica of the source image? I trust some talented hacker will nail this in no time.

i also support the idea to check for pdf errors using a stream decoder.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Asking the real questions

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am not intelligent enough to understand any of it but that was a fun read.

TIL the origin of Courier.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 173 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Long story short:

  • Some of the emails in the file dump had attachments.
  • The way attachments work in emails is that they're converted to encoded text.
  • That encoded text was included - badly - in the file dump.
  • So it's theoretically possible to convert them back to the original files, but it will take work to get the text back. Every character has to be exactly correct.

Source: I'm a software developer and I'm currently trying to recover one of these attachments.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago

I'm a software developer and I'm currently trying to recover one of these attachments.

🫡

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago

Godspeed friend

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Are you having as much trouble with OCR as the article author? I would have thought OCR was a solved problem in 2026 even with poor font selection.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

I'm not having trouble with it as such, it's just a slow and painstaking process. The source is crappy enough that an enormous number of characters need to be checked manually, and it's ridiculously time-consuming.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

OCR is mostly good enough. Problem here is we have 76 pages that we need to be read perfectly, with a low fidelity input

We also have very little in the way of error correction, since it's mostly not human readable

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder if they gave considered crowdsourcing this, having many people type in small chunks of the data by hand, doing their own character recognition? Get enough people in and enough overlap and the process would have some built-in error correction.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I mean the problem is that even with human eyes it's still really hard to tell l and 1 in that font.

See image

[–] Kevlar21@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not an expert at all but I’m genuinely curious how long it would take to check all possibilities for each I or 1? Is that the full length of the hash or whatever? So in this example image we have 2^8 =256 different possibilities to check? Seems like that would be easy enough for a computer.

Edit: actually read the article. It’s much more complicated than this. This isn’t really the only issue and the base64 in the example was 76 pages long.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's an iOS game about the history of fonts you might enjoy. Struggling to find it at the moment, but you play a colon navigating through time, solving various puzzles.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting in few weeks we might end up with some additional unredacted documents

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

But knowing the sick fucks in these files, possible child-related content...

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Has anyone checked if it's just black text on a black background. That would be in line with the competence level of Donnie's administration.

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I took a brief look at one and it seems they may have learnt their lesson from the first time around, unfortunately.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some of the reactions are some in an effective way, and I assume this example is one of them. The problem being evidently they didn't think any what might be in big base64 blobs in the PDF, and I guess some of these folks somehow had their email encoded as PDF, which seems bonkers....

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

had their email encoded as PDF

Doesn't compute, please explain.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guess the same way email can have html as an attachment for the same thing a plaintext does, evidently some of these mails suggested a mailer actually pdf encoded the email and attached, as well as the plain text.

So when someone replied with plaintext the base64 encoded PDF that they were replying to got 'quoted', meaning the unredacted email they were replying to is in there, just messy due to font confusion in the provided format.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Or did they just initially export the emails from Outlook as pdfs for the redaction process?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, makes sense, thanks.

[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Some email programs did that, especially when there was special formatting involved. I seem to recall Thunderbird doing it in the past, as well as outlook.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Fun fact: this guy uses fish shell.

[–] mbp 1 points 1 day ago

Hell yeah, fish is great

Sounds like he also maintains it

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I need an ELI5 version of this. (Note: this comment is a critique of me, not the author or the content of the article.)

Edit: if “nerdsnipe” isn’t in the dictionary, it totally should be.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Some of the Epstein emails were released as scanned PDFs of raw email format (See MIME)

MIME formatted emails are ASCII based. To include an attachments, which can be binary, the MIME format specifies it must be encoded using base64. Base64 can always take binary input and return an ASCII output. This is trivial to reverse if you have the ASCII output.

However, the font choice is inconvenient because l and 1 look the same.

I'm a bit confused by the article is only discussing extracting PDFs while in actuality you can reverse any attachment including images.

I am also no expert, so a smarter person will now correct me on anything I got wrong.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›