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[–] agingelderly@lemmy.world 137 points 3 days ago (5 children)

What does it say about women speaking again?

I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”

[–] TunaLobster@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Paul probably didn't write that paragraph of verses. It was most likely added by someone else along the way.

To your point of people wanting to take only portions of the Bible literally and ignore others, there are TONS of things that the old testament says to do that we don't do every day.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 61 points 3 days ago

A whole lot of the bible wasn't written by Paul. Doesn't mean its not part of the bible.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

That sounds like a very feminine opinion

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Christians on old testament laws:

  • prohibition on eating pork: god actually didn't mean we should stop eating pork. It was an accident bro.

  • prohibition on vaguely sexual acts without clear translation: this is the word of god, how dare these people exist

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not defending Christianity, but the actual defense of pork is that Jesus had made pork clean, in a vision to Peter where the analogy was that Jesus also made non Jewish people clean, since mixing with them was also forbidden. So less accident, more amendment.

They would also claim (from my experience in a cult anyway) that the old laws were necessary at the time they were given, but by the time Jesus came he could revise them as they were more ready.

If we look at it from a secular viewpoint, badly cooked pork probably caused a bunch of illness to was banned, and by the time Jesus supposedly existed people had learned to cook it more safely.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If only they took jesus' thousands of negative views on the wealthy as seriously as they take his one revision to pork law.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Equally controversial fact:

I am not obliged by law or morality to follow what is written in your fucking book either way.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My version: I don't fucking care what your dumb book says.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I used to always reply with "i'm Jewish". They gear clashed like fucking crazy. It was hilarious.

Now i'm done even vaguely entertaining these shitheels

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

i used to use "i'm pagan" and watch the sparks fly but that's gonna get me killed one of these days

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[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What should be controversial is pretending a goat shepherds religious book from the bronze age should have any kind of authority in the 21st century.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean, if the goat shepherds have some strong moral positions, I don't see why they'd be disqualified. Ethics isn't something we invented in the 21st century, ffs. Bronze Age humans had as much a claim to it as anyone. Just ask Socrates or Confucius or Nezahualcóyotl.

Given the current state of the 21st century political scene, I'm not bending over to give modern day philosophers extra credit. Say what you will about Thomas Aquinas, he doesn't appear anywhere in the Epstein flight logs. That's more than Noam Chomsky or Peter Mandelson can claim.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Didn't Mary and Joseph live together before they were married?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago

It was acceptable because Mary could do sick ollies at the half pipe

[–] lauha@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

No, they just had a baby in a cave together and claimed it was a virgin birth.

Seriously though, I thought they were married?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 13 points 3 days ago

I feel like if they were married it would have been expected that mary wasn't a virgin

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

They get married at some point after jesus is conceived, and have other children (opinion varies, catholics maintain that Mary remained a virgin)

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Did you think Mary and god were married before today?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago

have other children...catholics maintain that Mary remained a virgin

Joe be like "You're pregnant AGAIN! And I suppose GOD is the father AGAIN, right?" {Walks away, muttering angrily "...while I'm getting NOTHING..."}

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[–] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

Every time I hear the word bible and fact in the same sentence the church bells start ringing in my head.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Did God marry Mary, before he knocked her up?

[–] totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, but in his defense, neither did he live with her.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Incorrect. He lives inside all of us! HE'S INSIDE OF YOU RIGHT NOW!!

I hope y'all's god likes pörkölt because that's what she's getting

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[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Some really unfortunate power dynamics in that relationship.

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[–] Hoimo@ani.social 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Society changed a lot since Biblical times. They didn't "live together" in the same house, but these people certainly "lived together" in the same street or village before getting married. People didn't really have a lot of "home life" like we do now, they'd be out in the fields, or cooking in front of their home. So they'd see each other's home life and it's more "getting a house for themselves" than a big change in privacy or contact hours.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

It isn't accurate anyway, the Bible certainly supports living together with people while not married in certain situations, for example with (sex) slaves.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Stanzi is fucking hilarious.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thou shalt boof but not before 3 days after the sabbath. So it is written

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 11 points 3 days ago

she cracks me up. hilarious skit work.

Stanzi

[–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Outside the Ten Commandments (supposedly), the Bible was written entirely by fallible humans - these assholes keep forgetting that part & act like it's 100% perfect (which we know it's not simply by its own self-contradictions).

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It is also important to not forget about how the Bible was formed.

What we know as the Bible is a collection of books, selected by a committee during a conclave centuries ago.

Any decision made by humans in power and influence will inevitably be favoring their own goals and politics.

There are plenty of other Christian texts that were excluded, how would they have changed Christianity if they were included?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

Also an awful lot of it is about being submissive and letting people take advantage of you. At least based off what I see getting quoted all the time. Weird how it's always people who're trying to control you quoting it.

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[–] Ava@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 days ago

The Ten Commandments, famous for being identical and consistent across varying versions of religious scripture and sections within the same!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Excuse me but old baldy Elisha successfully cast summon shebear swarm and I posit any being able to summon and command not just a shebear but a swarm of shebears just might be infallible

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[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also somehow the King James version is authoritative, after who knows how many links of translation phone games?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

They usually had a communal bed back then where everyone slepped on the same family bed together... Kids, gramma, sister and her boyfriend going at it, the wife and the husband going at it.

Very biblical.

[–] jimonthony@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There are so many books. It is strange that this one gets so much attention.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Controversial fact: Gondor does in fact call for aid.

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[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But it's a Good Book don't ya know! If you just read one book it should be a Good Book.

[–] TIN@feddit.uk 7 points 3 days ago

Unexpected Tim Minchin

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