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[โ€“] Ladislawgrowlo@lemy.lol 2 points 15 hours ago

Two symbols: A cracked skull to remember the people who died in wars. A sword to fight oppression.

[โ€“] fixmycode@feddit.cl 8 points 1 day ago
[โ€“] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 6 points 1 day ago

A computer mouse and crippling debt.

[โ€“] communism@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It didn't symbolise that. It symbolises the unity between the industrial proletariat and the peasantry. It's not about different proletarian occupations; it's about a class alliance between two working classes.

The peasantry doesn't exist anymore in most parts of the world, but imo most people understand the hammer and sickle to symbolise communism anyway so it still works.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Can't believe I missed that in the title, yea, peasantry aren't proletarian but instead they are their own class.

[โ€“] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 95 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, I already own one of those things...

[โ€“] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

time to save up for the vibrator !

[โ€“] Edie@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

The GDR coat of arms or the WPK emblem are nice variations

Compass and Hammer from the flag of East Germany

Brush, Sickle, and Hammer from the Workers Party Of Korea Emblem

Quills have been used in a bunch of variations. Cogwheels too

The GDR's is exactly what I would expect out of German communism. "We have the two working classes: laborers and engineers"

[โ€“] sushiatnight@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

I absolutely love the WPK emblem.

The WPK emblem is perfection.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

Always thought the GDR and WPK had awesome h&s variations!

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The same, honestly. These jobs never went away, they were just shifted out of the imperial core to the periphery. It's a symbol of two classes, the proletariat and the peasantry. While the peasantry has been mostly phased out, its symbol remains.

[โ€“] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think the scythe really represents farming in the modern era though.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Neither does the hammer for the average industrial worker, but both are symbolic.

[โ€“] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We should replace the sickle for a combine harvester and the hammer for a CNC lathe amirite

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why a study of art is key for any revolutionary, we can't have our symbols looking lame

[โ€“] NotMushroomForDebate@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It should just be a combine harvester. The machine itself is an impressive product of ingenuity, engineering, and labour, as well as symbolising agriculture. It is also a symbol of progress and prosperity.

USSR flag but with a combine harvester instead of the hammer and sickle

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Better than I thought it would turn out!

[โ€“] SGforce@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago

Bluetooth headset and an uber eats food carrier

[โ€“] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 days ago

I like the Juche symbol

[โ€“] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago

A spatula and a necktie.

[โ€“] CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

Like someone here in the commercial said, today the labour is to much diverse and there probably couldny be just a few symbols. I Just fucking love so much the red star, it's very iconic but also simple. Idk thou

[โ€“] Twongo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Laptop and Starbucks cup ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ

Definitely just the hammer & sickle. It still very much applies.

Alternatively, though this is not strictly Communism but Socialism, I really like the common logo used for Democratic Socialism, the Fist and Rose!

I also really like the logo of the Democratic Socialists of America!

[โ€“] onlooker@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Except not all comrades are white-collar workers.

A very large number of us, believe it or not, are blue collar.

(I'm one of them.)

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

An espresso group head and an AI prompt.

[โ€“] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

I think modern labour might be too diverse to cover properly with only a few symbols. We're no longer uniting two labour forces, material conditions have changed. I think that instead of focusing on types of labour, we might instead focus on what the movement can bring.

We could put basic human rights on a theoretical new flag. A drop represents access to water, bread represents access to food, and a roof over both.

If you want a new flag, picking something that unites is all (our needs) might be a good way to go.

[โ€“] ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

I like this one, especially. The DPRK one is great as well

Probably just an updated hammer and sickle, really.

[โ€“] daggermoon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think the ACP has a neat symbol. It's too bad the party is ass.

Edit: Before anybody gives me shit about it, it's a conservative party.

[โ€“] folaht@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is the way I see it:

Primary sector: Agriculture - Sickle - Manufactures edible goods
Secondary sector: Industry - Hammer - Manufactures non-edible goods
Tertiary sector: Service - Mop - Helps people through transporting goods, repairing goods, cleaning, healing organisms, cashiering and catering.
Quarternary sector: Authority - Pen - Provides Law and Order through Government, Justice, Police, Education, Political, Media and Mental support (Psychiatry & Religion)
Quinary sector: Finance - Banknote - Gambles
Sextary sector: Automation - Cogwheel - Destroys jobs

As the service sector is large and sextary sector petite bourgeoisie than the service sector I suggest the following:

Mop and Pizza Box

I do think we're not there yet though.
Both objects are accurate but I feel like we need something more aggressive to show that we're revolutionary.
Hammers and sickles are both tools that can be used as weapons.


[edit #3]

Changed Judiciary to Authority.
Changed entertainment media from service sector to authority sector so now all media is in the authority sector, as plenty of entertainment shows have tried to and sometimes successfully driven people to adept to their political world views or even driven into political action.

[edit #2]

On second thought, perhaps Iโ€™ll replace syringe with pizza box. It evens out the sexes, both mop and syringe are practiced most often by women (cleaning lady and nurse), while transportation of goods is more often preferred by men as carrying goods can sometimes be physically demanding.

[edit]

I changed the Syringe to mop in the Tertiary sector as suggested by mech,
although I have to say that nurse is very common job,
which is why I chose the syringe.
Same goes for delivery person, but I'm betting on it being automated away faster than nursehood.

I crossed out cogwheel as a symbol for the proletariat as I realize that I consider a subsector of this (engineers) to be one part of the ruling class (the other being scholars) within socialism and thus not the proletariat.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Engineers are overwhelmingly proletarian, and all classes produce their own intellectuals, meaning there are bourgeois scholars and proletarian scholars.

[โ€“] childeofentropy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

may i ask why do you consider engineers and scholars as part of the ruling class/not part of the proletariat?

[โ€“] mech@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the one tool that's used by the most workers in the Tertiary sector is the mop.
Every office in the world needs to be cleaned. And it's part of the job for everyone in retail or food service, too.

[โ€“] folaht@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You convinced me:
I changed Pizza box to Mop and put Syringe in second place.

Protective gloves representing a lot of blue collars like industrial, mechanical, medical, and maintenance, cleaning.

Keyboard or headset (I considered outlook calendar or zoom symbols, but dont think a specific company should be immortalised here) for a lot of white collars.

[โ€“] Pirat@lemmy.org 4 points 3 days ago

a manual particle collector (broom) and a manual particle shifter (shovel).

[โ€“] RedLink@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As an artist I'd love to see suggestions in this thread. The specific recommendations might be different country to country or smaller districts. Something thats difficult for the US is that a lotta people are doing jobs related to tech and there's not really a single unifying symbol for this. Hammer and sickle to represent farming and manufacturing is possible, and I believe adding a brush branches out to a wider movement.

But finding symbols to speak to the workers as a whole can be difficult with how diverse it all is. Theres so many hyper specialized machines and tools.

When making Icons before I've used my states iconography and Black panthers, and queer symbols like the pink triangle. This is extremely important and a good symbol will speak to the audiences you want and pull dedicated people into the movement.

It might be necessary to focus on smaller regions within the US and Unite those before creating broader movements. (OFC whichever is in the best interests of the end goal of revolution at that time.) I can only speak to the US however

[โ€“] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

For tech workers, how about a keyboard, mouse, or a circuit board? Getting them to look good and clear on a flag would be difficult though...

[โ€“] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

A couch and a cell phone.

[โ€“] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think about this a lot. I genuinely think this is a really important question for the future. I'm not sure if we can reclaim the hammer and sickle in the eyes of the masses but the idea it represents of the two largest labor forces joining together will forever be important.

[โ€“] pineapple@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is a very good point actually. Most western people look at the hammer and sickle and see evil. If we changed it to something else to make people feel more represented and avoid peoples gut reaction then it would really improve things.

[โ€“] draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I disagree. I don't think the symbol is tainted, but the core idea behind it, because of the red scare propaganda. Once people realise what the new symbol stands for, they'll dislike it just as much, if not more so because they feel 'tricked'.

We have to reform the good name of communism instead, rather than throw it out wholesale.

[โ€“] pineapple@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

I think your right.