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[–] PDFuego@lemmy.world 2 points 22 minutes ago

This is what I hate about the "broken clock is right twice a day" thing. The process you use to get to a conclusion needs to be sound for it to matter. If you have a couple thousand stopped clocks showing different times, you can't claim to always know the correct time just because it's in there somewhere.

Sure, atrazine causes birth defects in frogs. If you tell me that frogs are being intentionally turned gay because the globalists are using them to test a chemical weapon that will be used to turn people gay so that they'll stop reproducing as part of a global depopulation plan, then you support a president who relaxes regulations on chemical disposal including atrazine, you don't get to wait for most people to forget all that context and claim your initial kernel of partial-truth as a victory. This is exactly the same thing, and we see it over and over and over and over.

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The conspiracy invents stupid theories to discredit the real ones duh.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

i call this the Ur-Conspiracy

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world -2 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

Yea no fuck off. Conspiracy theorists were right. They aren't racists or antisemitic, that was the loud minority that others chose to use against us all so they could dismiss our warnings. Seriously sit the fuck down bitch ass dogs. I get it, it makes you feel better to be able to dismiss the people that believed survivors because you cannot bare the fact that you ignored them for so long. But I say fuck you, you don't get to feel better about this.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

Lumping every single conspiracy theorist together as if they had a unified belief system is silly.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The CT's were as they always were.

Right about some things. Wrong about others. The FBI publicizing footage that shouldn't exist in order to make themselves look good in the Guthrie case, however, should be making everyone reconsider how they use and store their electronics.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

That footage came from a cloud connected camera; google's cloud.

There is no conspiracy there. If you use a Google device, they are storing all of that data even if they will not give you access to it without a court order.

The FBI is run my bumbling idiots. The delay is because they didn't know how to ask properly.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

By the time that Q thing got started, the Miami Herald had long been publishing details of Epstein, so all they did was take the villains and project their behavior onto the opponents of rw extremism, figuring it would never catch up to them.

So no, they don't deserve any credit. They just misdirected the villainy. That's negative credit.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 35 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

To add onto this, the Epstein case wasn't even a conspiracy. He got a plea deal in 2008 under the Bush Admin and a case was built against him under Bush and Obama culminating in an arrest of Epstein and Maxwell, and Maxwell's trial then sentencing from 2016 to 2018.

We also knew Trump was involved because Trump told us so on Television in 2002, and we had seen televised footage of the two attending parties together in 1992, and Epstein even mentioned it in his deposition in 2010.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 hours ago

There was conspiring, so it was a conspiracy.

It wasn't a conspiracy theory, because it was a confirmed conspiracy. But too many people don't know the difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The Miami Herald had published a lot of stories by the time Q came around. So all Q was was projection. Every accusation is a confession, there are no exceptions.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 hours ago

As someone who entered adulthood around the mid-10s, it was hard to keep track of what was real and what was bullshit between things like Anonymous, WikiLeaks, QAnon, and the Epstein files.

It was really hard to sort the nonsense from reality. Or more accurately by volume, the reality from the nonsense.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

they were clearly going to try and just limit punishment to maxwell/epstein though

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 61 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The files show extensive ties to Israeli, Saudi Arabi, and UAE elites as well. It's as straight-cut on class boundries as possible

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 32 points 11 hours ago

Also? The "we're mad about pedophiles" conspiracy crowd don't get credit when they decided to put Absolute Biggest Sex Crime Guy in charge of their movement and stay onboard when he says "I'm not releasing the evidence".

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't Epstein a Mossad asset? So Jews were involved.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

yes, there's a heavy connection between the zionists that run israel. whose interest happen to align heavily with the christo-facists and general rich bastards of the USA (who largely just want israel to act as a destabilizer for the ME, so they don't unify into another great power).

the interesting bit is Israel really doesn't have that much loyalty to the USA, as evidenced by pretty nuch any presser they do in hebrew (because most of their US-based zionists/supporters only speak english).

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 10 points 10 hours ago

I can highly reccommend the current Behind The Bastards series on the files. I had no idea all the places Epstein poisoned with his touch. Some examples: Bitcoin and fucking Micro-Transactions.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There were 100% conspiracy theorists who said it were powerful/rich white people. Why do you think stuff like X-Files was so popular in the 90s. People suspected clubs like that trying to rig everything.

Yes, some of them said it would be the jews or whatever, but that's only a part of the many, wild speculations and could have been racism.

But you don't owe any of them an apology, because they knew it was hard to prove and just theories/suspicions at this point.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You are lumping in every conspiracy theorist in with the Q people here.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

well, the OP says "conspiracy theorists" in the image and the title. i didn't assume it was just about Qs, but could be they meant just them and were intenionally or unintentionally confusing.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

They always like to lump all conspiracies together and discount the lot of them by associating them all with the crazy ones. JFK case and point, dumbass theories are used to discount all the real conspiracies that the fbi and cia and other elements of the establishment were heavily involved in the assassination and it's cover up.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Not too sure these guys are very straight. Sex isn’t even the key driver. It’s to humiliate others, to make others suffer for your pleasure.

It looks like Paraphilic disorder more than anything else I’ve seen.

Also Epstein was Jewish.

It’s far more complicated than a simple 4 paragraph twitter take I think.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago

They said people were harvesting adrenochrome like fucking vampires or something.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 9 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

Also Epstein was Jewish.

Whiteness and being Jewish have a complicated relationship but for the last few decades at least, someone can be both.

[–] Peehole@piefed.social 10 points 12 hours ago

I mean Epstein was Jewish, boasted about being a Mossad agent in private, Ghislaine Maxwell is Jewish and the daughter of an Israeli spy. Top ranking Israeli officials like Ehud Barak are in the files, people like Noam Chomsky are in the files. Yeah there’s a lot of WASPs in there too, according to Epstein the only goyims he respected, but OP is being disingenuous by omitting all this.

Yeah MAGAts are retarded and imo religion is anyway not the important point to focus on but anyone can read the files so why accuse others of rewriting history and then doing it yourself?

[–] lbfgs@programming.dev 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Post in OP says "conspiracy of...Christian men" which certainly does NOT describe Epstein, the person at the epicentre of all this

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 9 points 12 hours ago

It also says "rich white right-wing men", which does, and it's also true that most of the people involved in the cover-up purport to be Christians.

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[–] adhd_traco@piefed.social 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

In the abridged interview with Maria Farmer, which I posted in this community yesterday, she speaks of massive Zionist elements in this. And she also says that none of the victims were Jewish, to her knowledge.

Sure, it's accusations, but I think quite important to keep in mind. Has anyone heard of any Jewish victims? And as you say, Epstein was Jewish, but he also had massive Israeli ties, as did/does Maxwell.

I could make a sourced list at some point to point to all the Zionist connections, but I think this is really well established already.

It's right to differentiate between half-truth conspiracy psyops and actual conspiracy, which has a legal definition too. But this poster oversimplified it to the point of another half-truth of mis-/disinformation.

[–] adhd_traco@piefed.social 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Some stuff on the Israeli & Zionist ties of the innermost parts of the network.

Epstein ran Leslie Wexner's Pro-Israel Philanthropy Machine

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On paper, the Wexner family’s philanthropic foundation and their retail empire, once home to Victoria’s Secret, Abercrombie & Fitch, and Bath & Body Works, were legally separate and largely had their own staff. But, in practice, as is typical of such foundations, one small family office sat over both the family’s fortune and philanthropy. Internal emails between Epstein, Indyke, and Wexner’s staff show Epstein as the effective boss of the family office, and the real gatekeeper of the Wexners’ money.

Epstein supporting Israeli PM

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Interestingly, Barak was relying on Epstein’s support rather than vice versa, despite the fact that Barak was a very powerful figure in the Israeli security establishment. And so, these emails, in addition to House disclosures, which also point to the same information, show that this intelligence agent, who was a longtime military intelligence agent in Israel, who was Barak’s chief aide for many years, lived at Epstein’s house for significant stretches of time, weeks at a time, between this period of 2013 to 2015.

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The Israeli government installed security equipment and controlled access to a Manhattan apartment building managed by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, according to a set of emails recently released by the Department of Justice. The equipment was installed starting in early 2016 at 301 E. 66th Street—the residence where former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak frequently stayed for stretches at a time.

Funding of Zionist groups

quoted source

Through Epstein’s COUQ Foundation, he provided Friends of the Israeli Defence Forces (FIDF) and the Jewish National Fund (JNF) with funds on at least one occasion, when he gifted $25,000 to the FIDF and $15,000 to the JNF in 2006.

According to the FIDF’s website, the organisation funds programmes for Israeli soldiers. Through its website, the organisation invites donors to adopt a brigade or battalion, such as the 97th Netzah Yehuda Battalion, which has been widely accused of killing unarmed civilians, killing detainees, torture, and mistreatment.

On Maxwell

quoted source

[Robert] Maxwell poured money into the Israeli economy and died in mysterious circumstances after he was said to have fallen from his yacht in 1991, after embezzling millions from his company’s pension fund.

Epstein himself appeared to have suspected that the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency had a role in Maxwell’s death. An email Epstein sent in 2018 had the subject line “he was passed away”, referring to Maxwell.

In the message, Epstein claimed that Maxwell had previously threatened Israel’s intelligence service, writing that “unless they [the Mossad] gave him £400 million to save his [Maxwell’s] crumbling empire, he would expose all he had done for them”.

Unverified Zionist ties

quoted source

An FBI memo produced by the bureau’s Los Angeles field office in October 2020 reported that one of its sources had come to believe Epstein “was a co-opted Mossad agent”.

According to the document, the disgraced financier was described as having been “trained as a spy” for Israel’s intelligence service.

The source also claimed Epstein maintained links to US and allied intelligence circles through his longtime lawyer Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard University law professor whose network, it said, included “many students from wealthy families”. Among those cited were Jared Kushner, US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and envoy, and his brother, Josh Kushner, both described in the memo as former students.

[–] adhd_traco@piefed.social 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So, sorry, "rich, straight, white right-wing Christian men" is just misinformation/disinformation.

[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Plenty of Christian men in there: Trump, Bannon, Musk

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t associate any of those people with performative Christianity in any way.

Trump is Christian only part time since he got into politics; I haven’t heard that musk is religious even in name. Don’t know about Bannon.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

idk, for the next decade every jesus painted in statesia is going to have krasnov's bloated face on it. that's a thought to make you gag.

[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 0 points 4 hours ago

What does your personal opinion matter? And who are you deem someone a christian or not?

[–] adhd_traco@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I'm not arguing that.

The Epstein files uncovered a conspiracy of rich, straight, white right-wing Christian men

They did not, or only very partially so. This is misleading/downplaying the Zionist elements, for one, as well as the diverse background of various characters.

The poster shuts down the Jewish part of the conspiracy and then spins it as the quoted thing, leaving out any mention of those elements.

Edit: fixed quote

Edit2: to avoid making another comment, I'll write another issue with the post here. I'm sorry for the fragmented way of posting. I'll take it as a learning experience to take my time and write a single comprehensive comment for things like this in the future.

it was just dudes emailing each other in plaintext asking for directions to the Sex Trafficking Island

That's not the criminal conspiracy. That's just the collected and partly published emails of Epstein, which the DoJ collected.

It's also inaccurate because the trafficking is at least alleged by multiple victims to have taken place at Mar-a-Lago and other locations. (Virginia Giuffre in her book nobody's girl, as one example).

[–] adhd_traco@piefed.social 4 points 11 hours ago

What do you folks think about requesting to delete this for the amount of mis-/disinformation?

(I am not a mod, I just wanna know what others think)

[–] lol_idk@piefed.social 6 points 13 hours ago

Not sure the guy who sucked Bubba is straight

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