It's not good for the consumer to have less competition on the market. But is there any legit reason to own an Xbox?
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I hate that Xbox is a joke now and that it's going to die out. I hate that there is going to be less competition in the console space. I hate that Microsoft have no idea what the fuck they're doing.
Playstation is next; Nintendo has the securist market with its portable console.
I would think hand helds like the steam deck would be slowly strangling it but the switch 2 sold like hotcakes.
The only reason I got a Switch 2 is because a company selling them here in Denmark made a HUGE pricing error. So I got a Switch 2 and Mario Kart World together for just 99 DKK, or 15 USD.
Haha, there's not much I wouldn't buy at a 95% discount.
We seriously need to get open source PC console community-made offerings up and running. To share the load of building that up. Community built up competitors and Valve will be enough.
Still I also would like to see some new players come in too.
Are there any companies that would do well in gaming? What if AMD made their own console?
Playstation is next;
80% of the xbox crowd is probably gonna buy a playstation. Maybe a few will go for a PC and the rest for a switch.
Couch goblins that look into the future when considering the cost of a console might find the steam machine worthy when it releases.
Need more private companies like Valve, and some community open source options built up too
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Indeed. Death to consoles. A piece of hardware/software creating a gated community where you're charged twice to use the entrance and then gaslit into thinking that it's a necessary fee.
When you set an impossible goal (30% yoy profit margin for the gaming division), you know that you are killing off that division, just, slowly.
Satya just really wants an AI girlfriend that is also in everyone's homes simultaneously, that he can use to spy on everyone for the NSA.
Not that it directly matters, but I did literally work for MSFT during the 360 3RR / Windows 8 era.
I kinda know at least a little about the uh, corporate culture.
I think they are sunsetting whole company.
That's what their actions felt like for decades yet somehow they've always kept chugging along.
I can only hope.
I love how nobody here is getting me actual picture. They're not going to sell Xbox to people anymore. What's going to happen is they're going to turn to a subscriber model where you have to log into a data center that they control and use your browser to play video games. Paying a monthly subscription for the privilege of playing their exclusive games. In fact I will bet money that the first product that will be introduced with this feature is going to be the highly anticipated upcoming Grand Theft Auto 6.
Mark my words. Either at the time of release or shortly thereafter they're going to introduce the ability to subscribe to play GTA 6 in your browser on a remote gaming system. And then they're going to phase out physical Xbox systems over the next couple of years.
I saw a thread the other day, something like "What low-level conspiracies do you genuinely believe"; to which someone replied that they believe that OpenAI is being speedrun to bankruptcy in order for Microsoft to buy their data centres for pennies on the dollar.
And yeah, it all kinda seems that could be a credible outcome, at which point MS will have a huge amount of equipment all ready to serve game streaming to people who can no longer afford to buy a home computer to do the same.
Is it going to happen? shrug
Could it? Absolutely.
And how well do you think that's going to work? Sounds like a shitty service maybe five people will subscribe to, and then it dies a year later.
We've had subscription services like this already. I don't hear much of them anymore... Or at all... So I presume they're all dead.
This sounds... plausible actually. They have this big stake in GPU datacenters for AI, that are (and will be) burning incredible amounts of money and are not turning a profit anytime soon. That same crazy level of investement on AI is making hardware costs go up, especially gaming hardware.
But Microsoft, being the benefactors who have inherited the company from philantropist and kids-lover Bill Gates, have thought of us! They will share a bit of their shiny GPU datacenters' plwer for gaming and all they will be asking for is a lot of your money. I can see that.
It won’t be GTA6. It will be an exclusive title like a rebooted Halo or Gears of War. They can’t risk losing the money on GTA when people just go to PS5 and buy the game outright there.
I said GTA 6 will be the introduction. Not the closer.
As any drug dealer can tell you, you have to give them a taste in order to get them addicted then you can start to really charge them for the good stuff.
The Elder Scrolls 6, only available on Xbox® Game Pass© Ultimate Plus™ Cloud Gaming™®©
This has been tried before and never worked well. What makes you think its going to work any better now?
I even have a free controller google gave me when they tried it.
It doesn't need to work well.
It needs to sound like it will make more money for MSFT's board.
You're approaching this from the angle of 'is this a sensible and sustsinable long term business strategy.'
Nobody cares!
They care about LINE GO UP BIG FAST NOW!
Microsoft Board: But Google lost so much money on Stadia!
Voice on speaker: but Google didnt have me, Bing.AI!
Microsoft Board: DONE. MAKE US RICH!
Stadia was still a system you buy. What I'm talking about here is having a browser based gaming system where any computer could be used to play games, for subscription price of course.
There are in fact currently places on the web that offer such services for Minecraft.
And I'll bet you anything they'll make the subscription price really low at first. Borrowing from the Netflix model... Then, once consoles and PCs have been outmoded and no one owns anything, they jack the price up.
The only thing that makes me think it might work this time is that for some reason Microsoft has this magical ability to take a bad idea, make the shittiest possible iteration of it and have it mysteriously become the most widely-adopted standard against all logic.
Oh man, those stadia controllers. Not the stupidest $99 I've ever spent, but still pretty dumb.
Attitudes like that are not how we got a trillion dollars in spare data center infrastructure to find a use for!
Those consumers will be happy owning nothing THIS time!!
The PS5 version of GTA6 is going to sell pretty well then
To play games coded by a shitty AI, full of bugs and as many microtransactions as possible ...
Is the game buggy? Worry not! Microsoft™ Copilot 365™ powered by Azure™ will analyze your gameplay in realtime, detect when a bug occurs, and redirect you to an AI generated troubleshooting page.
Unironically the AI is trained using episodes of The IT Crowd.
I love my AI future.
Fuck.
It's insane how Microsoft is handling Xbox:
- They have their own console and Windows
- They bought everything they could and now own most of the biggest gaming franchises outside of Nintendo: Activision-Blizzard. Minecraft. Halo. Call of Duty. Warcraft. Starcraft. Diablo. Candy Crush. Elder Scrolls. Fallout. id software. Bethesda.
They have everything in place and are still getting slapped around by Valve and Sony and are now talking about shutting down everything?
Yes. Correct. Because they don't know what they're doing.
Just look at how they've positioned themselves in recent years: One, we always want to have the most powerful console to be the best. Two, we want people to be able to play anywhere with just a controller and no console required. Talk about a kingdom divided.
As a long time IT guy... this is how Microsoft does everything
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I love how corporations work.
"Hey, we completely fucked this up. We mishandled it, made decisions our customers hate, and now we're scrapping it because we might lose money.
"Could we fix it? Sure. But that would mean changing the business model that made us money 20 years ago, and that’s terrifying. There’s a risk we might lose money."
"And sure, the board won’t lose a dime personally. But the stockholders, basically meerkats who scatter at the first loud noise might panic. And we can’t have that. We might lose money."
Look some people may say Xbox has confusing naming scheme, but it's very simple, number just goes up:
First one is Xbox one. Noone in Microsoft is dumb enough to call "one" console that isn't first of the series. Then Xbox X (because X is Roman 10) then the Xbox 360.
Very easy
Announcing the Xbox One 2 SL XLS SE Pro, which is the basic version, and the Pro version, the Xbox Two 1 SE SL XS SLB Enterprise, both of which are vibe-coded Windows apps that stream Gamepass games without installing anything but take up 100GB of hard drive and still run your GPU at 100% somehow. The latter costs twice as much and you get a different Minecraft cape with it. They update on a completely separate schedule to the rest of Windows, but if you run either one and the updates aren't in sync it deletes your Documents folder.
You forgot about z Copilot version where AI has unrestricted ring 0 access to every single device, including your peacemaker - but in return it spies on you 24h!
Xbox S One S Xbox:
Sexbox.
....Did I get it right?
I guess they're going to go all-in on AI despite only 3.3% of MS365 subscribers paying for Copilot. Stonks?
My feeling on Xbox since Xbox One days has been pretty much "this is an awesome platform, you're sitting on a gold mine Microsoft, what the fuck are you doing?"
The last bit of brilliance they did utilise properly was GamePass, and of course they cocked that up by getting greedy.
Last few years have been extremely rough. The only lucky thing about this is that instead of full Xbox exclusivity Microsoft was pushing Xbox/Windows cross functionality. ...Yeah, I've been pivoting to PC, but Steam/GOG instead.
The Xbone is what made me go PC full time.
Been a Xbox gamer since the original Xbox with Halo CE. LAN parties galore. Halo 2 and the beginning of Xbox Live was amazing. Bought a X360 at launch, got Gears and Crackdown for the Halo 3 multiplayer beta. Halo 3 was peak.
And then Xbone announced. Always online. Kinect required. "Sports" "Live TV". Yeah, not falling for that. "Can't just flip a switch".
Yeah I cancelled my Xbox Live sub and built a PC. 2500K with a 550ti. Haven't looked back since. All of my friends in our group did the same, but some bought a PS4 as well for the SP games.
Microsoft just doesn't care. They have enough money to not care. But the writing has been on the wall for a long time for Xbox and I'd be genuinely surprised if they release another console and I'd be even more surprised if anyone actually buys it. It's a dead ecosystem.