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This is cool. I just hope game developers also get on this bandwagon. We could use a 4-year moratorium on increasing minimum system requirements.
not gonna happen with GTA6 releasing soon
Rockstar are good at optimising their games. GTA V ran better than GTA IV on the same hardware. I wouldn't be surprised if GTA VI runs well on the Steam Deck.
GTA IV was released for the same generation of consoles, and also there was only a 5 year difference between releases.
GTA V came out in 2013... almost 13 years ago and we are two generations ahead console-wise.
I'm just skeptical at the idea that GTA VI will run well on Steam Deck, maybe on the future Steam Machine
Well, it did take a while for GTA IV to run well on anything, really...
"Rescue"
Lol. What is the rescue if even DDR4 explodes? What does this help?
DDR4 is already ridiculously expensive, just not quite as bad as DDR5
Sticking to DDR3 until society finally collapses , I am also building a nice ddr2 build for super cheap that still runs all my physical games collection!
I still have some DDR3, but no motherboard for it. We need DDR4, but I don't suppose anyone will want to trade in that direction.
My DDR3 mini itx board already has the max capacity installed years ago, which was 16gb. It's reached the ceiling :(
And they called me a madman for spending months tuning the CO of my 5800X3D to its limits and also OCing my 3200 mhz Crucial Memory to 3800 Mhz. It seems this setup will stay with me until DDR6 arrives. I hope the prices get back to normal by then.
I don't think there will be a DDR6. I think the AI bubble is going to pop & all these data centers will become "mainframe centers" that your minimum spec'd home terminal connects to to do all the computing for you on "Our lightning fast multi-core super computer with terabytes of memory!"
😐😭🤮
I doubt it. Those AI computers are built in a really weird way and have a lot of hardware that isn't really useful outside an AI/HPC context. Some stuff like the weird card to card network topology can be reconfigured but the rest of it can't easily be. The servers are rather agressively designed around keeping as many GPUs fed as possible making them kinda weird for other jobs. Those datacenter cards are missing enough video hardware (for example texture units) to make gaming hard and I'm not sure there's that much consumer demand for linear algebra accelerators. If they can't find more HPC jobs they may go under. Movie studios could have interesting opportunities here but they are still primarily using CPUs in all their software IIRC.
The clusters in the UAE and Saudi Arabia might be repurposable for nuclear weapons research which isn't great.
GPGPU usage is probally going to see some real usage. There was an interesting talk at the xorg conf even about turn the video hardware into virtual services running on GPGPU focused hardware.
Ive talked with some of the HPC programers too who are trying to find creative repurposes already lol
I think that it's fair to say that AI is not the only application for that hardware, but I also think that carpelbridgesyndrome's point was that they aren't really well-suited to replace conventional servers, where all local computing just moves to a server, which is the sort of thing that ouRKaoS was worried about. Maybe for some very specialized use cases, like cloud gaming in some genres. I'd also add that the physical buildings have way more cooling capacity than is necessary for conventional servers, so they probably wouldn't be the most-cost-effective approach even if you replaced the computing hardware in the buildings.
I don't know, if you want them to last I'd ease up on the overclock.
CO on Zen 3 X3D chips is always an undervolt, not an overclock.
Ah, AM4.
At 10 years old, it's still the platform that keeps on giving.
I'm running an AM4 Ryzen 9, with 64Gb of DDR4, and the thing cooks. AM4 is just great.
I've been happily sitting on my R5 2600x for so many years now lol. My MB is an MSI B450 Pro Carbon and it can easily handle a 5950x or 5800x3D or whatever.
Add another 2x8 gb ddr4 for 32GB total and I'll be seeing some insane performance relative to what I'm already happy with, which will last me another 5 years easily unless the mobo dies.
It's really insane how well designed AM4 is.
And I'll be running it for at least another ten...
Still runs everything well, so why not?
Economic growth. The government needs us consuming more so that they can create jobs, that's the entire goal of inflation targeting.
Ha, that's the funny part. They could have kept pumping out AM4 and taken market share slowly over time while making normal money, making normal jobs, but noooooo line must go up every quarter. So we instead got new products that are twice as much money (when ddr5 came out) that are less stable and not much better, and then to make line go up more fuck selling to people lets all do AI bullshit instead. And now we are in a world where now there is no current viable product, less jobs, and less money people are willing to spend on things that cost 5X what they should.
Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare?
I'd agree that its an AI bubble, I can understand that at least. But those peoples money will be set on fire far more than you with a higher DDR price, as it was with the dotcom bubble; then you'll get cheaper DDR.
Youre complaining that they attempt to advance technology to acquire marketshare?
Yes, it is a colossal industry wide issue of "needing" a new product in a rapidly decreasing window regardless of the utility of the product.
Chiplet designs and integrated GPU do benefit a lot from ram speed at least. So its speeding up CPU and GPU as well, providing a higher CPU core count and cheaper CPU.
DDR4 is cheaper than DDR5, sure, but retailers have jacked the price of both by the same percentage, so it's not really all that much of a rescue.
I expect people will need a full mortgage to pay for DDR6 when it comes out next year.
Unless he's some kind of purebred, you probably won't even get enough for one stick.
noo, good cats are not for sale
This is universally true, so, it’s implied they are a bad cat unfortunately
Fuck this I'm going back yo freedos.
Best games are DOS games bitches!!!!
I've been playing a lot of Doom recently and I used to run that on an old 486. People just kept on making free wads for that for like 35 years.
Can you run GZDOOM? Because if you can (and didn't already know about this; sorry if ass-u-me), you just became one of the lucky 10,000
Nice, Beyond Sunset kinda reminds me of Neon Overdrive, which came out last year. I wonder if NO took aesthetic inspiration from the BS setting. I haven't played through a ton of the total conversion wads but it's always impressive what people manage to do with the (tweaked) Build engine. Are those two standouts for you? Looks like Ashes got a cacoward runner up in 2018. I had a lot of fun recently with one called Impping, which is a slaughter wad where the enemies are mostly imps and your ammo is mostly rockets.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Neon_Overdrive
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Impping!
Oh, and apparently there was a bit of drama a few months back over the GZDoom guy using some AI in his coding so some people switched to the UZDoom fork
I think Beyond Sunset came out first but dunno.
Yes, those TCs are definite standouts. Think of them (quite literally) as "What if Fallout but Doom?" and "What if CP2077 but Doom?". If you like either of those, you should like the TCs. There's a good Wolfenstein one (I know, I know...very meta) called Blades Of Agony that is astonishingly great also.
Shame about the GZDoom thing. People are ridiculously over-sensitive to AI anything at the moment. C'est la vie
I know it’s not DOS per se but just getting into Caves of Qud and MAN I’m loving it.
i thought ddr4 production was shutdown, are companies still making it or is this until that supply runs out too?
It's still running. I submitted an article last month about how Micron was buying a facility that had actually just opened quite recently and was apparently producing DDR4 to refit it to make HBM; faster than building a new memory factory from scratch.
But as I point out in another comment in this thread, my guess is that this is more about being able to tap the already-manufactured used memory market. There's a lot of DDR4 already in computers, and as those computers get disposed of, as long as it's not thrown out and goes back on the market, that makes DDR4 available.
