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A president refusing to do their duty should be impeached imo.
And people who rape children should be drowned slowly in hydrofluoric acid, but we don't live in a world where either of those things happen.
I believe there's an amendment to take care of that, it's the second one.
What's the magical number of impeachments you think would have any affect whatsoever? Words on pieces of paper do not mean a fucking thing, shit will keep getting worse until people realize this.
What's the outcome of impeachment? He has a higher number than he can count to, so what would be the point?
Fine with me. Also the SAVE act must not pass. 85% of married women WILL NOT be able to vote. Plain and simple.
This is a great way to attack our right to vote and Republicans hate women, so they would love for women not to be able to vote again.
That stop gap budget runs out soon right?
Shut 'er down.
Establish escrow accounts for taxes and welfare/ubi.
I understand that you guys have a crude system over there, bit why cant 85% of married women not vote under this proposed bill??
The bill requires that a voter's name match their birth certificate, and many women (and some men) changed their names when they got married.
Having already brought this point up with a MAGAt at work, she honestly thinks they will make exceptions for all married women.
The mental gymnastics and denial of reality is exhausting.
Because they took their husband's family name, which probably doesn't match their birth certificate.
probably
Alabama women won't flip the vote, anyway.
.... good?
Tempt us with a good time 🤣
Supreme court and Congress have a lot to catch up on so that would be great.
The SAVE Act passing is probably a good sign to leave the US.
no, you go out swinging... failure to stop it will allow for it to expand and you won't be able to keep running. it will come for you
My great grandparents came to this country in the early 20th century fleeing fascism in Europe. It was their decision to leave that kept them and their family alive. Their friends that stayed weren't as lucky.
I've always wondered what caused them to make up their minds. What was the final straw that snapped that made them say "We need to leave for our safety, there's no hope of stopping what will come."
Ever since they announced this bill, I think I found my equivalent. If this thing passes, there's no saving the country. The DNC simply won't act to mitigate its damage, I've seen how they work. The only outcome after that isn't total fascist rule is violent and bloody civil war. And, frankly, I don't trust Americans to fix the country however that war would shake out.
I think I'd just rather try my luck elsewhere.
This time around there's no fleeing to somewhere safe, the baddies have knife missiles that can hit you anywhere you run to.
As if they would waste those on random citizens. Curious if Germany hunted people who fled the country.
You're missing one major difference here though. America was the exception to most every part of the world during WW2. It was the only major power that was not victim to massive bombing campaigns or direct on the ground warfare.
There is no such place to flee to today. China, maybe, for the time being.
Fleeing was the best choice for your grandparents. But that doesn't mean it is for you or I. Your grandparents didn't have the "perfect" line that they decided to leave at. They didn't even make a perfect calculated choice on where to flee to. Your grandparents, to put it bluntly, were lucky. And, well, if your grandparents were fleeing Japan instead of Europe they would have been met with significantly different treatment when coming to America at that time and have likely died in a camp.
You're looking at their decisions with hindsight and trying to project them onto a world that is entering an entirely different world war.
I wish you the best. And I can't say any decision is better than another. But, I don't think you can either. We all have to hope we are as lucky are your grandparents were.
And at the end of the day. None of will be "lucky" if no one stands up to fight back.
FWIW America managed to cobble together an America that lasted 161 years after the first civil war.
That’s not that bad honestly, so, it could be done again…
It's not worth fighting for. It always has and still is a land of thieving, lying bastards. You can die for it if you want. I'd rather just go.
Hey that’s your choice, my experience of other countries is that they’re all full of thieving lying bastards. The difference is these are my bastards to deal with.
Good luck on your journey though!
161 years is NOTHING for a country. Almost all other major nations are a millenium or older.
The city I lived in before this one was founded in 1776 and the one I live in now is about a thousand years older. We have buildings still standing that are 5 times as old as the US or older.
My house is from 1779. Not quite the age of the US, but I think the house will win in the end.
True, but how stable has the actual government been through that time? Cities almost universally live through many governments throughout their existence.
This goes for nations, one clue here is they used to be called kingdoms with a very different form of government from many nations today.
Also if you do some research on this you find that the United States has one of the longest running constitutional democracies in the world.
So while 161 years might not seem like much in the arc of history, as far as democracy goes it’s nothing to sneeze at.
Also if you do some research on this you find that the United States has one of the longest running constitutional democracies in the world.
The US constitution is the second oldest active constitution in the world.
The oldest is the constitution for the US state of Massachusetts.
valid
If I had the means, I'd have left years ago.
Better headline: President holds country hostage until he gets what he wants.
Better headline: Corrupt, treasonous pedophile yadda yadda...
Is he also refusing to eat his vegetables?
I'm joking, as if he's ever eaten a vegetable.
Should somebody tell him about the 10 days thing, or should we let it be a fun surprise?
Honestly I was not aware of that until another comment explained it.

Oh NO! The President NOT Signing bills that the Majority of Americans HATE in an Election year is a TERRIBLE Threat! Quick! PASS the SAVE Act!
-Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries!
Oh noes
If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
I think he has to try to return the bill in order for "adjournment to count as veto".