Programmer Humor

Did all these post of people putting their phones in boxes wit random voices actually go anywhere?

I have this feeling it's more like a mentalist mind-trick.

We are fed so many inputs from so many sources, we don't notice the influence, but we end up thinking about such and such, maybe talking about it with other people and suddenly, lo and behold! the algorithm presents us with an ad for the very subject that was on our mind! Mind reading! Magic!

But just like a Derren Brown subject, we just picked the card he wanted us to pick from the beginning.

I reckon the only thing preventing us from being completely subjugated is the amount of actors trying to influence us simultaneously, as we flock through our attention grabbing sources.

Which is why the consolidation of media is such a worrisome phenomenon. One dude controlling an entire network of sources means you are constantly under the same influence.

And then you get MAGA.

I wonder what's next?

...superPAC dedicated to funding policies that hold IT organizations liable for the consequences of their actions.

Stories of these companies listening through everybody's mics are like modern day ghost stories. It definitely totally happens every single day but nobody ever manages to get a piece of hard evidence. Maybe the algorithms can sense wireshark like ghosts sense cameras

It might be the other way around too though... You might be thinking of buying something, because Facebook or google have convinced you that you need it

That said, I had to create an account in FB due to work and studies. I did some research and decided to run it only on a browser and use a seperate browser only for FB. Along with some strict privacy rules.

My account was flagged within 30 seconds of creation. They asked for a selfie ID that they got and they did a manual assessment but banned the account nonetheless for not following community guidelines

You can't even read their community guidelines without accepting their cookie policy

I see the debate happening in here, and I honestly think the way this really works is a lot weirder and at a bigger scale than what most of us might imagine. We've had pretty strong machine learning for quite a while... we still don't know exactly how it works, but these models have reasoning, pattern recognition and the ability to classify data which improves every day.

The likes of Google ingest all manner of disparate data points, buying and selling them to each other, responding to the push and pull of markets and trends. These players have a realtime profile on every single person who touches their platform. Users touch that platform with almost everything they do. These touch points where data get gathered are not just users' own personal devices, either. They increasingly happen via corporate and state-controlled devices and networks out in the built environment.

We feed these entities continuously with our actions, whether we know it or not. They continuously map all the intersections of millions of data points across billions of profiles, theoretically getting as granular as needed. It's picking up patterns that humans would never think to look for, modulating, and feeding it back to us. Generative agents fit into this framework, hand in glove.

At this scale, these entities can derive trends, interests, motivations. They create massive feedback loops, driving trends that suit them as they observe, predict and influence what we'll do, wear, buy, eat. Where we go online, and IRL. And what we search for.

This is a massive, largely invisible, endlessly adaptable machine they've created. No one person can fathom the entirety of it. Even for the engineers who contribute, they only know their one small piece, and they may be unaware of how it contributes to the whole or how it ultimately is used.

The only ceiling to it is data storage, compute, and access/adoption. They're obviously working to massively raise that on all fronts.

This is becoming the mycelium beneath our forest floor. Like trees, we find it convenient and practical to know each other's statuses and whereabouts, to converse, and to get things. We eat from it, or it feeds us. Meanwhile, it shapes the environment itself, deciding who rises and falls, spreading, terraforming the earth and transforming the substrate of above-ground life according to its own alien logic. Unlike a mycelial network, it has our own hubris reflected and embodied. It's not self-limiting, not in a way that means anything to the well-being of most of us. The end result here won't exactly be balance and homeostasis in the ecosystem.

They don't need our microphones.

I’ll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

I talk about Kendal Mint Cake whenever I think I might be around an open mic.

I and my wife constantly get adverts for it on Amazon and in other places.

None of us have ever bought any.

Hashtag confusion to the enemy, or something

And Alexa, of course

Mate I'm its even worse than we could possibly imagine by now.

~20 years ago, when smartphones were new and super expensive, I arranged to meet my friend using Facebook chat. I did not have a mobile phone at all, I used desktop PC to access it. While I was in his car we were talking about possible careers and I said i would probably enjoy being a teacher. When I got home and logged back in, every single banner ad was for teaching courses, teach English abroad, teachers wanted.

It definitely used his smartphones microphone to hear that there were 2 people in the car, and used the chat log to figure out it was me, and this was a long time ago.

That might be useful.

It's more like, you buy a pair of boots online.

FB and Chrome for the next week and a half BOOTS!! BOOTS HERE!!

I wish it was that way. Soo many ads are completely irrelevant. The only platform where I get good ads is google news (the swipe left on Pixel). It's filled with Adafruit ads. I'm cool with that.

Wish tech companies respected my privacy they're awful people to interact with.

What did I miss? Facebook has done this for well over a decade, but how does Google illegally listen in now?