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Case was seen as major test of the first amendment and whether the US could use broad anti-terrorism statute to prosecute leftwing protesters

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 14 points 4 hours ago

another rule of fascism, always accuse your opposition as terrorist, so that your Peblian support remains strong.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

A police officer arrived on the scene shortly after and drew his weapon at one of the people allegedly doing vandalism. One of the protesters was standing in the woods with an AR-15 and hit him in the shoulder. The officer would survive.

Even this conviction is bullshit. The cop drew first. Song shot in defense of others.

[–] BigTurkeyLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

How is any jury finding them guilty, deck has to be stacked because the ratio of ice supporters to nonsupporters even in Texas isn't enough to get an average jury to vote guilty. This is coming from a guy in Oklahoma. All they need is 1 juror to hold the line.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Arm yourselves and organize now.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago

This is a big big fucking deal and big hit to freedom here.

I can hardly believe this outcome.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 67 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

They pointed to the fact that the demonstrators took steps to prevent their cell phones from being tracked.

Prosecutors also pointed to the way that the protesters used Signal, a widely-used messaging application, as evidence of their coordination and conspiracy. The protesters used pseudonyms on the app and had messages autodelete, an increasingly common practice among protesters and journalists who are concerned about government surveillance. They also emphasized the defendants were wearing all black during the protest, sometimes describing it as “tactical” gear.

That just describes my normal non-protest day. The fuck is this?

Antifa! ANTIFA!!!

Me too, by the way. Tbh, I'm way closer to antifa than to ever setting foot in the USA. And I still think that's a good thing. At least being anti fascist and willing to punch a Nazi.

[–] null@lemmy.org 7 points 5 hours ago

At first they came for the tactical protestors and I said nothing. Then they came for the goths, then the emo kids.

[–] AltoCuddle@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My black T-shirt is now tactical gear.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Tactileneck

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

When you find out you've been a terrorist your whole life...

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 190 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When being against fascism gets you charged as a terrorist, you live in a fascist regime.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 97 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And all those concentration camps they're building aren't just for immigrants.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Even if they were, it would count.

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 130 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Thats actually insane. This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE deal

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 45 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Every other day it's something that's a HUGE HUGE HUGE fucking deal. It's done, the frog is boiled. Violent rebellion or accept fascism, choose one.

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 hours ago

Have you joined your local lefty self defense org?

[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 91 points 12 hours ago

I belive the term here is "kangaroo court"

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 88 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Sanchez-Estrada was the only defendant not at the protest, and was only charged with corruptly concealing a document or record, after prosecutors say he moved leftwing zines following the arrest of his wife, Maricela Rueda, on the Fourth of July. Song also escaped after the incident and there was an 11-day manhunt for him.

WTF THEYRE COMING FOR OUR ZINES!!!???

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 50 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm confused. Is a left wing magazine one that promotes the ideals of freedom like fighting against government overreach against your people? Is a left wing magazine one that advocates for defending your friends and family against masked thugs using any means necessary?

Because apparently I know a lot of Republicans on the Antifa payroll.

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 40 points 11 hours ago

Ooooo wow you sure got them in a pickle of hypocrisy now

Buy a gun

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

First amendment is long dead bro

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The IHRA really did kill it

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What does ihra mean in this context. I looked it up and can't figure it out.

[–] choui4@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 hours ago

Ah, sorry about that. The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA). They created a definition of antisemitism that conflate criticism of pissrael with antisemetism and they are working hard as hell to get it installed across all the governments. Some states have used their definition iirc. But, to me, it was the final nail in the coffin that is the first ammendment, at the behest of Zionazis

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 16 points 11 hours ago

"You have been fount guilty of zpreading communist propaghanda. Ze fuhrer is most displeazed."

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 25 points 10 hours ago

Mark Pittman, a US district judge nominated to the federal bench by Donald Trump in 2019, appeared to gesture at the irrelevance of antifa in the closing moments of the trial, asking prosecutors why he should mention it in his instructions to the jury, underlining the gap between the emphasis on antifa and the technicality of the criminal charges they faced. “Whether it’s antifa or the Methodist Women’s Auxiliary of Weatherford, why does it matter?” Pittman said.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 59 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SayJess@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

Had me in the first two letters, ngl.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 51 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Any candidate for the 2028 Democratic presidential primary better be getting asked about pardoning all these people

[–] n4ch1sm0@piefed.social 13 points 6 hours ago

They better be asked about how they're going to prosecute all these fucking criminals in the White House

[–] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 42 points 12 hours ago

Well we'll see how soon appeals can start. This is going to be a big case either way.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Guilty till they can prove themselves innocent...FROM JAIL

What has this country come to???

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 hours ago

It's been like this for a very long time. Back in the 1950s, you could call someone a communist and they would be arrested and put on trial.

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

Republican Wonderland.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 33 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

All the charges against all of these folks seem to stem from this one act by one person:

One of the protesters was standing in the woods with an AR-15 and hit [a police officer] in the shoulder. The officer would survive.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 21 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck the United States, piece of shit country masquerading as a free and advanced nation.

Shit. Hole. If I was there and I had any, any chance to leave I would be gone. Long, long, long gone.

T-minus 8 months until people actually start to become concerned there I guess.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

T-minus 8 months until people actually start to become concerned there I guess.

I guess you haven't paid attention to those of us who have been fighting against this shit as we're able for well over two decades. I guess you don't see the gradual increase in awareness.

Has it led to ovethrowing everything yet? No, but a lot of people are fucking concerned. So you guess wrong.

It is, however, a shithole, yes. And if I could get out, I fucking would.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I really hate to minimize the very real efforts you're talking about. From the outside, it's just...too much. It's gone way too far, the damage being done is way over the line. I can say with 100% certainty that if this was happening where I am, we would be burning things to ground by now. That's the frustrating part.

I just don't know how the American people (I'm not including MAGA in that) expect the rest of the world to care or help when, as a nation, you're not helping yourselves.

I'm not saying nobody is trying, but I am saying that looking at things at the nation-state level, you guys are going to be looked at as the enemy, and also won't attract much outside help, if you can't find a way to make real progress against this blatant fascism, peaceful or otherwise.

It's a shit situation.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 hours ago

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you aren't from the US you probably don't understand. We don't generally have the same protections workers in other countries have. There's no guaranteed sick days or PTO. Healthcare is usually tied to - or at least heavily subsidized by - your employment. Education has been defunded for decades. Housing costs are so high and minimum wages so low that many struggle to afford rent, let alone get onto the property ownership ladder.

On the contrary, entertainment is relatively cheap and plentiful. Even those in poverty are generally able to escape their woes temporarily with the TV or online. The system is designed to keep people helpless and complacent, and it's been working beautifully from the perspective of the ruling class.

What this all results in is people with jobs that barely pay enough to afford to meet their basic needs, and can't go without work because they can't afford the risk of no healthcare or income, and aren't inclined or educated enough to better their situations.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 11 points 11 hours ago

The ONLY sign of resistance I have seen so far has been from Minnesotans. God bless them.