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[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

So there's tech that I think is both bad for society and incredibly unethical in it's creation and propagation that is nothing to say of the utter privacy nightmare it poses for its users.

But all of this is now okay so long as the person using it is from a disadvantaged enough background?

Like, I understand that we want to make extra effort in order to accommodate those with disabilities in our society and part of that can be some moral compromise.

But surely this has limits, no? In fact I know that those limits exist.

But is it really ableism to defer to those?

I'm not saying that the person you encountered wasn't ableist. But there is a lot more nuance there than "people who hate 'AI' are ableist by default". The same way that people who are in favour of abolishing cars in their city are not doing so to specifically take mobility options away from paraplegics.

[–] arcine@jlai.lu 13 points 1 day ago

How did said disabled person use AI, then ?

[–] NeedyPlatter@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm out of the loop, how did this disabled person use AI to support themselves?

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 23 hours ago

For one example, I've seen posts by blind folks using AI to vibe code scripts that fill gaps in accessibility solutions.

It's not hard stuff to code, it's just that coders with the skill to fix it upstream either don't understand the issue, or don't give a shit.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm sure this will be a very reasonable and respectful comments section.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 41 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Say no to ableism.

Say no to Clankers in general (they also really love to play the disabled card.)

[–] cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Agreed. Also OP is the moderator of PeerTube .wtf which I recently moved away from on account of being told I should waste my time, energy, and (nonexistent) artistic ability creating artwork for someone who already decided to "generate" slop instead of commissioning an actual artist.

Edit: lol I'm stoopid I just realized that I might be the whole reason this post exists hahahaha

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

TBH I'm not surprised.

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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago

Heaven forbid someone let the plagiarism machine have a positive use case

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago

Link or it didn't happen.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Supporting the disabled is genuinely a good use of AI.

[–] AudaciousArmadillo@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is it supporting them in your opinion?

[–] pinto@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

You could ask OP.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

Everyone who is shit at writing claims they’re disabled and need AI as an excuse for posting slop.

Being lazy and uneducated is not a disability.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's the webpage for a quadriplegic painter. What's your excuse?

https://joniandfriends.org/jonis-artwork/

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, all disabled people have the same ability.

None of them need accessibility tools like image descriptions and segmentation, or dictation and writing assistance.

You got me.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Enough with the deliberate bad faith takes. You're not fooling anyone. It's just infantile.

The point is that pick any disability you can imagine, and you'll find people with that disability creating art. And creating art in countless fields and media. Is it easier to get an LLM to vomit out an image for you? Sure. But again, the same thing applies to non-disabled people.

This has nothing to do with having a disability. It has everything to do with being lazy.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago

I never ever said anything to the contrary of that.

I said generative ai can be used to help disabled people.

[–] gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah there are some legit good use cases for AI. One of my siblings is dyslexic, an AI bot that can read text out loud would have been fantastic for school. Would be great for them driving, if they had something that was reading aloud the signs they looked at. But I don't think this is possible in a capitalist system because the company providing that AI would also be selling all the data it collected. It would start reading the signs the company wanted first like ads

[–] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could you point me to some reading on uses of AI for disabled people? I’m familiar with a variety of aids and the general idea of “if it looks useless, it’s not for you to use”. I’m just not familiar with what the use cases are.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

I mean blind people can have the world around them described now for starters.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

Sounds like the problem solved itself

[–] pinto@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago

God forbid a disabled person use a tool to aid themselves, might as well hate on TTS programs and motorized wheelchairs.

Watch, they'll claim they don't dislike the disabled person, but also will shit talk them more than an able person.