They are just going to fake it. And being a human plan being executed by humans, some will know the date.
But yeah, if you did believe this stuff, their hubris should be blasphemy
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They are just going to fake it. And being a human plan being executed by humans, some will know the date.
But yeah, if you did believe this stuff, their hubris should be blasphemy
There’s a word for it. It’s called hubris.
Those people clearly didn’t get the message of the Bible.
I don't have chapter and verse like the other person, but I do recall that the Bible said Jesus's return would be triumphant. The only "stealthy" part of it (which the other person's quotes don't dispute) is that no one will know when (like, in advance). But when he does return, it will be no small feat. At least according to the Bible. Which I don't follow, so I can't claim to be an expert.
I always thought anyone claiming to be Jesus would find himself crucified.
Also, the Christians in power don't want Jesus, the god of man, they want Jehovah, he's their man, the one who punishes the gays and brown people and... yeah, I don't believe that shit, either. But the real Jesus would be asking these men in power how they have so much and why the people they rule over have so little.
A Christian is a follower of Christ's teachings. He taught humility, acceptance of others, non-violence, truth, helping others, non-hipocracy, love, and peace. Just because people in power call themselves Christians, doesn't mean they are.
Yeah, but then you get into "no true Scotsman" territory or "gatekeeper" territory.
I agree, but I'm worried about the implication of saying someone who's trying (i.e. not one in power) isn't Christian enough when they're trying and I'm not.
That is to say, I follow my own code, but Christ's teachings follow a similar line of thought. Does that make me a Christian, then? Or is something more (faith, baptism?) required?
I've actually been doing a lot of thinking about this lately. Reading the gospels and trying to leave my preconcieved ideas out of it. The conclusions I've been coming to are: You can call yourself a Christian, but if you don't live like it, you're not. Acceptance of Christ's teaching is intertwined with what you do. Acceptance of Christ's teachings has to be an inner thing, not just doing the right thing and staying bitter and angry inside.
If we accept what you say is true,, then I argue most churches and people who go to them aren't Christian in the least.
I can't answer that. I know some things about some denominations in my country, but I don't have the knowledge to make that generalization worldwide.
Hey now, most of the followers haven't read it but still believe every word so you're doing better than them.
I did a bit of research and edited my post to include some info.
nah man. He stopped by like over 25 years ago. Said he wanted to look around before everything went to trump.
Nope. He said no one would know the hour or the day but he also said there would be signs and, if people watched for them, they wouldn't be caught unaware.
The people rooting for this don’t actually read their bible. They are either the grifters in charge who don’t really believe in it, or the people who just believe whatever they are told by their religious leaders. It’s a shame that we offer free public education, but when handed a book, people prefer to just listen to their influencers rather than actually read the source material.
That's not true at all.
Gospel of Matthew 24:30
“They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”
Acts of the Apostles 1:11
“This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
Matthew 25:31-32
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory… all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate them one from another.”
Matthew 24:27
“For just as lightning comes from the east and is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be.”
Matthew 24:30–31
“Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds.”
Granted I'm catholic, maybe you're referring to some obscure Protestant scripture.
Maybe you're referring to Matthew 24:36
“Of that day and hour no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.”
I'd imagine the people saying hes going to come back are claiming some kind of direct communion with God. Or pointing to some of the "signs"
"Widespread deception and false prophets"
"Wars and global turmoil"
"Persecution of believers"
"The rise of a figure often called the Antichrist"
Signs that could be argued have been a main stay since the beginning of time.
Something, something...thief in the night...something, something. Not sure if that's in the bible.
I think OP is referring to the passage following what you posted, Matthew 24:36-44:
36 “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. 37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, 39 and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. 42 Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. (ESV - emphasis mine)
There's some additional passages in the Bible that reference the "thief in the night" motif, namely 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 2 Peter 3:10, and Revelations 16:15.
That said, my interpretation is that these talk about the point in time which is unknown, not about the manner of Jesus' return.
He's still taking a break from his first coming. His stamina is a bit low.
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what he actually said is that he would come back before that generation ended
Pretty much yeah, in the sermon on the mount I think, he said he'd be back while the people who were listening were still alive.
He did the sermon on the mount before he was crucified and subsequently resurrected (came back) though. That said, I personally dont think the translation means generation in literal, this group of humans sense anyway.
I'm from a different religion, therefore that doesn't apply to me.
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Early 2030's, 7y after the Regional Consolidation Time ( what the Christians call The 1st Seal ) begins, which will be in the next month(s).
"A Time, Times, & Half-a-Time" means 7y, 4+decades, & 7/2=3.5 years, in their book of Rev.
The Muslim prediction for the durations is 8-7y, then 40y, btw.
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Where does it say that he would come back stealthily? I remember it saying nobody would know when it happens (as in being able to predict it), but when it does it literally would be signalled by trumpets from heaven and a ton of other crazy shit happening.