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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 35 minutes ago

Americans are running low on jobs, food, money, health care, education, legal due process, civil rights, and now self respect. A lot of which is due to zionists effing everything up. I hope they have zero interceptors and have to pursue peace instead.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I plead for journalists to actually inform themselves about the subject before they write.... :o

Israel has other ways to defend against Iranian missiles during the war, including via fighter jets, but the interceptors are among the most effective defensive weapons against long-range fire. Its Iron Dome missile defense system is designed to repel more short-range fire.

They speak of Iron Dome (short range, for slow rockets from inside the atmosphere) and THAAD (high altitude, for fast missiles re-entering from space) interchangeably. And they even mention fighter aircraft, which cannot do jack in either case.

The currently relevant scenarios:

  • Hezbollah shoots unguided rockets at Israel -> Iron Dome intercepts maybe 15% of them (if the trajectory looks dangerous enough), and this costs about 10 times as much as the whole rocket salvo.

  • Iran shoots an IRBM at Israel -> the IRBM splits up in space into cluster munitions -> Israel can intercept the MIRV bus (cluster munition housing), but it's empty at the time of getting intercepted. Not much point. And doing it would cost at least 10 times as much as the incoming missile did.

A missile defense system, in this case, cannot do jack either. For this type of attack, defense would have a point if one was expecting to get nuked, becuause a nuclear-armed reentry vehicle cannot be made arbitrarily small, and the cost of leaving it un-intercepted would be extremely tragic.

In case of these projectiles, which are conventional and unguided in their final stage, one has to simply absorb the hits. This is the cost of war. And try to find the other guy's launchers, and try to prevent them from producing more.

And I'm not shedding any tears for Israel in this case. It definitely sucks to be bombed with cluster munitions, but they started this round of fighting, killed most people who they might have negotiated with, and aren't even new to using forbidden kinds of weapons (e.g. cluster munitions made of white phosphorus).

[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] pie_enjoyer@lemmy.world -4 points 3 hours ago

Do you want one country to bomb another?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 11 points 6 hours ago

You sow the wind, you reap the whirlwind.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago

How many interceptors does Gaza or Lebanon have left?

[–] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

Remember, USA had to go in, because Israel was going to attack Iran nomatter what.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 9 hours ago

And this will be used as nothing but an excuse to send Israel and arms manufacturers more money unfortunately.

[–] kittykillinit@lemy.lol 28 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's okay, Americans will buy more while their infrastructure crumbles.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 19 points 10 hours ago

As long as they don't have to give up anything basic for their people, like education, or Healthcare... wait...

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 53 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, they didn't stop to check that before starting a war? That seems ill advised.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

they count on their vasal states to give them more

[–] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 62 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Are we supposed to feel sorry for them now?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

I found the antisemite! /jk

[–] lithiumground@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

İt is antisemitism to not feel sorry for

[–] Pofski@lemmy.world 35 points 13 hours ago

So, basically attacking a country that has been preparing for this war for 20 years might turn out to bite them in the ass?

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 58 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Well that's too bad.

Anyways.. Anyone have a suggestions what to have for dinner?

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Anyone have a suggestions what to have for dinner?

Evidently if you put an egg, butter and a slice of american cheese in ramen, its magical tasting or something. Sounds like trash to me but worth a try. Unfortunately this is a NYT recipe and you end up going to archive.ph 3 times to read it (eff you, NYT). but its the most american thing ever.

https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1016583-perfect-instant-ramen

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Palestinians have amazing gastronomy. learn to cook some of their stuff. I make about 20kg of pittas and hummus every week for a mutual aid and costs me about 8$ per week. their food is amazing and cheap as fuck.

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Excellent suggestion. I've been meaning to try something new. Thai and Italian is starting to get boring after 20 years.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

not gatekeeping, just advice, get the best olive oil you can, ideally from a shop you can taste it. And good zaatar is hard to find, avoid any from Walmart spice rack, chances are they replaced the actual zaatar herb (Hyssop in English) with oregano. Most of their food are cheap ingredients so those two key ingredients are important.

if you try Palestinian cooking with low quality oil and oregano instead of zaatar you'll get something that tastes nothing like it's meant to taste that.

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Good advice. :)

Luckily its easy for me to avoid Walmart, I think the closest one is several thousand kilometers away. :D And I'm already a snob about olive oil so I got that one covered as well :) IIRC, theres a middle-east specialized spice/food shop fairly near me, I'll go check their selection.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Bagels, for dinner? Isn't bagel like a thing you eat with your afternoon coffee, like a donut? I'm fairly ignorant about bagels lol

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Don't let big bagel dictate when you eat them

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I think I have never even seen a bagel. Big bagel is very inactive where I live.

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[–] Ariselas@piefed.ca 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Breakfast bagels are pretty good, fried egg, bacon, and a slice of Swiss

[–] VoiHyvaLuojaMitaNyt@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I hope the Swiss was consenting to you slicing them up

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago

Falafel Gyro.

Halal, of course.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 71 points 15 hours ago

Oh no the consequences of my actions!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 24 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

so will iran turn them into gaza soon or what

don't think so, the real damage is that their economy is nearly at halt, given they spent most of the day in shelters, schools are closed.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 16 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

If there were any justice in this world...

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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 13 points 13 hours ago

For humanity to progress we're going to need people to learn the lesson that militaristic expansion will end your civilization.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

Gotta send them $1B I guess

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago
[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 13 points 14 hours ago
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