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[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 20 hours ago

They left out the Palestinian land sales that are going on in synagogues.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

Um, actually, it's antisemitic to protest outside of my synagogue. It's also really affecting revenue from the Mediterranean beachfront property we're cleaning up and selling.

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Doesn't apply here as much at all but generally I'm not sure why people are debating either or not blowback is going to pick and choose on definitions of targets when in reality, most westerners are settlers and there are many more that are zionist. Settlers and zionists are fair game when it comes to the blowback that is going to occur when you bomb the fuck out of the world and I'm not going to cry when zionists or settlers of any caliber are taken out by a part of the global resistance who has complete and total reason to after years of being literally bombed.

It's okay to be uncomfortable with that though; but pretending there is some "moral superiority" because you're condemning what is simply the consequences of the West's actions. You can condemn it all you want, doesn't change that the U.S and the West is still going to do the things that cause this. I'm not going to get sad about a Zionist organization getting destroyed or attacked either, just sad for anyone who was simply going there without any "political purpose" getting hurt or killed in these events.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Shooting up a daycare isn’t righteous “blowback” and accomplishes absolutely zero of worth.

This isn’t a guy ramming a car full of explosives into a military base or any other target of actual worth. Justifying the murder of 4-8 year olds is demented, even if their parents are disgusting Zionists. Why not target their parents at that point?

[–] Dickensen@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Anyone who deliberately targets children is a piece of shit, but in the event that children die when children aren't deliberately targeted, their parents would be responsible for their deaths. Why bring them to a terrorgogue that is fundraising for terrorists? To put the children there is a form of child abuse. It is using your children as human shields.

If you are a Zionist but love your children, move away from Occupied Palestine and don't associate with Zionists. It is easy as pie. Look at me, I am doing it right now. I don't live in Occupied Palestine and I don't associate with Zionists.

If you however refuse to do that, then you are a cruel, vile piece of shit who would condemn your children to harm for your twisted and warped sense of ethnic superiority, and your colonizer ass should be sent to prison and your child taken away from you into protective custody.

I couldn't imagine sending my children off to somewhere where they fundraise for terrorists. Horrifying. It is child abuse.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 day ago

This what happens when you make it your staatsraison to conflate judaism with zionism.

[–] Clytemnestra@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly I don't care about the sanctity of any religious building. If they do bad things then you can protest there.

I don't think there was a protest i think that's where the guy rammed a truck and was gonna do a shooting

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think this is more referring to the guy attempting to shoot up a daycare in a synagogue…

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That shows he became thoroughly american.

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s actually because his family was killed by Israeli airstrikes a couple days ago when Israel is trying to annex Lebanon.

So, not American.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Which is why he went for a daycare and not for the hatepreacher or something...

Going for children is very american of him. Just like yankee suicide shooters tend to go for schools and the like and not their workplace or politicians.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 day ago

I was in agreement at first, but having looked into it a little: If it's the story with the guy in the truck, from what I could find on it so far, he may not have even known there were kids in there at all. The place has a sizable sign that says "Temple Israel". If it's true that he'd recently lost his family to israeli airstrikes, he may have just gone "okay, here's a place that's openly aligned with israel, I will attack that". Grief can mess with thinking clearly and losing that much, all at once, it's hard to even fathom.

From one source on it:

After sitting in the lot for more than two hours, the truck’s driver suddenly stepped on the gas pedal and rammed the vehicle through the front doors of Temple Israel in West Bloomfield Township, Michigan. The truck barreled down a hallway and became wedged between the walls as gunfire erupted. The engine compartment caught fire, and the smell of smoke drifted through the building, which includes an early childhood education center.

The driver, Ayman Mohamad Ghazali, 41, a naturalized US citizen born in Lebanon, died of a self‑inflicted gunshot wound after exchanging fire with security officers, investigators said.

Does not sound to me like the actions of someone who was planning far ahead. More like something who had not thought far ahead and was trying to work themself up to doing something. It's also worth noting, I think, that the way the article is framed emphasizes the presence of children there, but in reality is "includes an early childhood education center." Meaning, it's not like he explicitly sought out a childcare facility. It happened to include one, but:

The more than 100 children – all 5 and younger – who were in the building were uninjured, authorities said.

[–] darkernations@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Whether understood or not, it is because of the implications of flying any western nation flag has a similar liability. Israel's crimes are the west's crimes and that is too close a comfort for most westerners ie functionally westerner = zionist (the western project is poisoned from the roots up with the only hope is the dialectics of it becoming the opposite of the montrosity it now is, negating itself in the process. To convey this in a way a westerner understands: if a nazi has a chance to redeems himself then it at least starts by being no longer a nazi.)

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago

Don't forget selling land in the West Bank (illegally, but saying it is redundant)

[–] blobii@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 1 day ago

This is me trying not to sound anti-Semitic when explaining the war support stats in Israel.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is too spicy, IMO. Depending on how it is read, It implies that all American Jews are Zionists, which is a conflation of Zionism & Judaism, which both Zionists and antisemites would gladly endorse.

People will also use it against you to further their own bad faith agenda, which is why you’re the main character on c/meanwhileongrad today.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago

A nazi bar that donates money to nazis deserves to be blown up. Fuck optics

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 23 hours ago

In fairness, I have to agree that this reply was poorly written as well as overrated. Singling out the Jewish segment of the upper classes (‘this cabal routinely talk about their Talmudic racial supremacist worldview which includes hating communism, poor people, non-white people, Islam, and non-Jews’) is a classic distraction that the lower classes don’t need and overlooks the fact that capitalists look out for their class first and foremost; ordinary Jews are nothing more than pawns to them.

I doubt that @AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml is a petty bourgeois looking to preserve their class; the user probably arrived at this conclusion through hasbara. That said, we should not reward this thinking even if the user is a frustrated Middle Eastern proletarian.