Yes! Gimme back my sky!
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You can’t take the sky from me.
Been binge-watching Firefly (again) all week. Midway through Serenity (again).
Was hoping their announcement would be for a full Season 2 of Firefly or a Serenity sequel.
But will happily take an animated series. For a live-action one, they would have to explain the natural aging. Animated, they can keep doing it for a long time.
Seems like they have a pilot script and no funding. This was way too much hype and preamble for an idea they're still shopping around
The hype is the pitch. That's how they get funded
Most series don't get funded by directly asking fans to beg studios on their behalf. I don't expect this series to ever see the light of day.
Of all fandoms, Firefly fans were exactly the type to take out a full-page ad in a major newspaper (hmm, remember those?) in a bid to keep the show on the air.
I know, I was one back in the day and I remember the campaigns. Doesn't really change my feelings about TV show advertising now. There's a big difference between fans begging for a show to come back and fans being told to beg for a new show to be funded.
Worked for Hazbin.
probably not the best example. The writing turned to shit because it didn't have a real fleshed out plan beyond edge and hype. The fanbase became toxic, divided and cringe. The show is not long for this world.
Being a fan of a person is cringe. Doubly so if you dont know that person. That whole hazbin thing spun into celebrity worship. Their Broadway style show looked like a bronycon gathering.
although there is probably a sizable crossover, I unironically believe that Bronies are less cringe than Hazbin fans.
Bronies are generally positive and cheeful.
Hazbin fans are like max edgelords, lol-so-random-cheeze, im-14-and-this-is-deep, emo bullshit....
I can agree with that, at least MLP is wholesome for the most part.
Right.
And MLP is made and targeted for children. That some adults enjoy it too, that's fine. The show doesn't target them as an audience.
Hazbin however (and Helluva Boss)..... are supposed to be shows "for adults". And yet all of the writing, all of the humor, and most importantly all of the advertising and merch seems to be targeted directly AT tweens and teens. The shows creators are aware of and directly target their material to the younger audience. When they show up and ComicCons and stuff like that, their panels are "ALL AGES"..... for an adult show, why are your events filled with kids?
Isn't it fun how every new thing these days ends up being some predatory practice? Ffs.
I hope it still has the same vibes as Firefly and it’s not just Lower Decks with a Firefly coat of paint.
I mean, I was going to agree with you but on reflection I wouldn't mind Lower Decks painted Firefly at all.
Whedon isn't involved, so I might give it a shot.
I kind of feel the opposite way. I mean, will it be any good without Joss?
(I'm all for taking moral stances against artists, but he was canceled for being a dick, not for any of the much better reasons other people were canceled.)
Edit: also, Adam Baldwin is way, way more problematic.
Being a huge dick is good enough for me to not want to watch his media. He was really toxic and I don't want to support that. The fact that the abuse was not sexual doesn't mean it was not bad.
That's fair. I'm just saying it's less of a dealbreaker for me personally than if he were racist or sexually abusive.
Or like if he'd been a leader of a harassment campaign against women and minorities that led to the rise of the alt right, like Adam Baldwin, that'd be a hard dealbreaker.
It's you!
He wasn't cancelled for "being a dick", he was cancelled for being a serial abuser and sex pest.
Don't try to rewrite history just cause you liked the guy before it was revealed
Who accused him of being a "sex pest"? When did that happen? Because I double checked before my comment and triple checked just now.
Last I heard he was making women feel uncomfortable by asking coercive questions, and one of the male actors that worked with him refused to let him be alone in a room with women for fear that he'd be creepy towards them and make them uncomfortable
So you're just accusing me of rewriting history based on your memory?
The thing about not letting him alone with Michelle Trachtenberg was because he was an abusive dick and she was a kid. If there was a sexual component to it, nobody ever mentioned it. As far as I can find, none of the accusations against him are sexual in nature.
Abusive, misogynistic even, sure. But not sexual.
So when you accused me of rewriting history...
Ah yes that's much better, being abusive to a child
Yes, being verbally abusive to a child is much, much better than being sexually abusive to a child.
I find his style cringey and out of date. Plus he wasn't just a dick. He was championed as this great writer of women and a feminist in Hollywood while treating his stars like shit.
It's also hard for me to not see how he directed for the male gaze. If there are boobs, they're low cut with some jiggle. (Ex: In The Avengers, there's a woman that Cap saves. She gushes to a reporter afterwards. The scene that establishes her as a character who met Cap earlier? That was cut, but he kept the boob shots.)
Adam Baldwin may be worse but we are talking a paycheck for voicework compared to, say, showrunner status for Whedon.
That actress with the reporter is Ashley Johnson. Chrissy from Growing Pains, and Ellie's VA in The Last of Us.
I know that's not really relevant to what you're getting at.
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Cowboy Bebop?
Huh, didnt see this coming. I'll hold judgment, here's hoping
Married writing-producing team Marc Guggenheim (DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, Arrow) and Tara Butters (Agent Carter, Reaper) are attached to serve as showrunners
Doesn't fill me with confidence, but we'll see i guess.
Agent carter and Reaper were both well received by fans, but didn't gain the following needed to avoid cancellation.
Agent Carter is fantastically fun and pulpy!
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