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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

The war is over we won! Now launch another missile! We won again! 🫲🍊🫱

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The USA now have to spend billions almost trillions to resupply. Trump has bankrupted 7 businesses he will bankrupt America and do worse.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

have to spend billions

That's okay it’ll get stolen from someone, either resources or their own people.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't care if Iran wins. I just want the US MAGAs and the Israeli fascists to lose this shit they started at this point. Their noses need to be rubbed on their shit until they learn their lesson.

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's the ultimate underdog wrecks the bully story.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Or David and Goliath according to a certain religious text

[–] fisch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“The Department of War has everything it needs to execute any mission at the time and place of the President’s choosing and on any timeline,” chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement to Reuters.

What kind of bullshit answer is that? On the other hand, what else is he supposed to say? "Oh yeah, we burned through 90% of our ballistic missiles, we're completely defenseless right now"?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago

Aren't Tomahawks cruise missiles and not ballistic?

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

90%

I haven't read that article, but one I read within the past day or two mentioned we've used around 800 or so, which is around a quarter of our stock. Okay, I hate being "that guy" so just skimmed this article, which doesn't mention that stat, just claims 860 missiles fired.

So if that's true, we have used a bit of our stock, but it's not like we're out.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t understand how the pentagon can have a trillion dollar budget but not have enough tomahawks to fight China or Russia.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Was the number too low and why, if so? I don't know.

But I would still reply to your comment that the answer to your statement is simple: If tomahawk missiles were the sole budget item, a trillion dollars would obviously purchase more. But you have no ships, tanks, aircraft, spacecraft, soldiers, training, transportation… someone made a decision to have that number of missiles along with all the other weapons and systems. Was it insufficient? That requires investigation. But talking about the entire budget is… not applicable.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

One word: corruption

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

We're going to run out, and then every other country in the world should bomb the shit out of three targets: the White House, the Capitol, and Maralago. Those are the seats of MAGA power.

[–] returningtheday@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I'd prefer them to bomb Wall Street and all those demons inside

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Aand Brent has gone up to 112 dollars a barrel, what an amazing time to be stuck driving a 20 year old diesel wagon rather than an EV.

[–] Salamanderwizard@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Everything the Trump cult does is to cut off our balls. From citizens turning on each other to wasting our military power on a Middle Eastern country because our Middle Eastern twin can't share the goddamn sandbox.

Trump is a Russian spy through and through. He is doing everything to make sure there is no America to stand up against the Russian Behemoth.

Thank God for the willpower and cunning determination of the Ukrainian people and all those who went their of their own accord on the behalf of Ukraine. We are truly living in the days of a few heroes and many villains.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

This is an interesting assessment of geopolitics. I would say that China is the only country that comes close to being a behemoth relative to the US though.

It's true that America is slowly transforming into an Israeli and Russian foreign asset rather than a true democracy.

[–] Renohren@lemmy.today 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Weirdly enough, not winning will get weapons sold, will make shale sands petroleum worthy to pump, will make Saudi Arabia's budget balance, makes the EU more dependant on cooperating with their new big petrol and gaz seller ...

If you think about it, they were very slow to move anything towards helping Iranian civilians... As if they didn't want friendlies in power right now...

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Trump is a Russian spy through and through. He is doing everything to make sure there is no America to stand up against the Russian Behemoth.

Eh ... I don't know.

Why then start a war with Iran of all countries, one of Russia's allies? I think a complete Russian puppet would start a war with a neutral country, or better yet one of Russia's many enemies. War with Denmark over Greenland would have been the move for a total Russian puppet. Set NATO at each other's throats, waste NATO resources, leave Russia's allies alone.

Now, for sure, he does have quite a lot of Russian influence ... but I don't think Putin is the only puppeteer with a hand up this puppet's ass. Trump basically listens to and believes whoever was the most recent person to talk to him, the most recent person to give him complements, the most recent person who took him seriously and inflated his ego even more.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Occam's razer would probably cut this down to:

-Trump is a senile old man -Trump likely has Narcissistic Personality Disorder (possibly way more) -Trump is easily manipulated by his obvious levers of pride and greed -Trump has done plenty of things that have made him an easy blackmail target

This just makes him a puppet for anyone that has a higher IQ than him, which is not a high bar to clear.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's the added complexity here that Trump can't make his own decisions anymore due to his dementia. He just does whatever the last person he talked to said.

It's why after talking to Netanyahu he does what Israel wants. After talking to Putin, he helps Russia. Even after attacking Iran, a Russian ally, he removed sanctions on Russian oil in the midst of the economic shitstorm he made, which effectively gives them billions of dollars again. So overall, it was actually a net win for Russia.

Hell, after talking to Mamdani, he started praising him, talking about how much good he's going to do for New Yorkers, and even repeating some of his talking points. Trump doesn't have any original thoughts anymore.

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[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why then start a war with Iran of all countries, one of Russia's allies? I think a *complete* Russian puppet would start a war with a neutral country, or better yet one of Russia's many enemies.

Easily justifiable and believable to the magat base, waste material that could be used against Russia either directly or via Ukraine, further political infighting/deadlock in the US, further degrade US’ standing with allies/global community, more global chaos, inflict the same economic stress Russia is dealing with on the world and on it goes. Russia sent over a million of its own citizens to the meat grinder for its own ends in Ukraine, you think it gives a fuck about its “allies” if it means furthering their ends?

[–] prex@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

And remove sanctions / increase price of Russian oil.

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[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you talking about? Russia's military budget is a tiny tiny fraction of the USA. What fucking behemoth? I though Russia was completely incapable of invading even it's neighbor and losing thousands of soldiers and day and having to recruit foreigners. What Russian behemoth?!

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Russia runs giant misinformation campaigns in order to destabilize western countries. And the election of Trump shows that they're getting worth their money. And if noone stands to oppose Russia, Putin can do as he pleases. And right now, the most we get from western countries is a halfhearted attempt at supplying Ukraine. Russia is failing to take Ukraine, but they are still inflicting high losses on Ukrainian civilians. If Putin can flip western nations, he can grind away at Ukraine and then the baltics, without much opposition.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I thought these MIC assholes were working on this for 40 fuckin years? I thought they were making hundreds, THOUSANDS of these things? The “tomahawks” and “THAADs” and “patriots” and whatever the fuck else. It’s rather alarming how glaringly obvious and fundamental the problems with the American preparations for this war are. I understand there graft but Jesus fuckin Christ it’s like they didn’t even want to win the fuckin war. The ships are broken, we don’t have enough missiles, the bases are uninhabitable, the radars are blown up, the glorious F35’s are getting shot down by the Kuwaiti Red Baron, supposedly “on accident”, and apparently the Iranians are just getting started.

A lot of this shit seems like blocks on the bottom of the Jenga pile…

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's estimated our stock was around 2500-3000 or so, so we've used about a quarter or so of them.

[–] eli@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly if you worked with any government entity at any level you'd see how flawed, inefficient, and broken the system is.

Government contracts out everything to the lowest builder. Yeah we get "more" for our money, which in turns fucks us in the long term as our infrastructure is compromised in different ways, and once it's truly tested you'll see the cracks form and the eventual collapse.

What does this mean for the US military going forward? Idk, but it gives me the same vibes we were seeing with Russia back in 2022, all of us expecting a steam roll and huge military force and it turned out to be a gigantic flop.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Government contracts out everything to the lowest builder.

This is not always the case. In reality, the bid often goes to the company with political connections.

They might also look at things like timeframe and job creation. So, supposing that all other things are equal: One company plans to use robotic labor, one is using human labor. There's going to be a lot of pressure from unions to hire the human labor. Or one company is using imported materials and the other is using local materials.

That's not to say that the system isn't biased and flawed. It most definitely is. But this idea that the "lowest bidder" always gets the job is just not true.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, any large system is inefficient. People point to governmental inefficiency as a reason to privatize everything, but not only are large enterprises also inefficient in ways, but they must seek profit.

In reality, while many areas do have legitimate problems that could use better oversight, a decent amount of what our government does for us works pretty well, outside corruption and fascists working to break our democracy. It's also a fact that a lot of people think a lot of things are much easier than they are.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

not only are large enterprises also inefficient in ways, but they must seek profit.

This deserves repeating.

A government job often requires highly skilled union workers, thus higher pay for the workers. A corporation can find the cheapest labor, but it's not always the best. The savings are then pocketed as profit, essentially giving shareholders a free government check while labor is poorly compensated.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 22 points 1 day ago

Reminds me a lot of the muscle bros at the gym. Very impressive, show off with lifting big weights and they do have a mean punch, but some have such a bad cardio they keel over after a few minutes of cardio. And Iran is taking muscle bro USA for a run through the mountains.

[–] baaaaaah@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 1 day ago

No they weren't, they were drinking from the firehose for R&D

A missile sells for like a million dollars and the profit margins aren't going to change much.  R&D can cost any amount

So they've been playing with lasers and self guided bullets instead of building a stockpile of tried and true munitions 

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kuwait shot down 3 F15s which shows how incompetent my country is being led right now…

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh right I guess I confused those F15’s being shot down with the F35 that was shot down

That f35 was hit by Iran but it was able to fly back to base.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They have, but the best part about MIC is they need repeat sales, can't have DOD saying 'whelp, we got enough missiles now'

So missiles have volatile propellants and explosives, with expiry dates.

It's why the first few rounds of materiel sent to Ukraine were 'free' since they were all close to or had already 'expired'.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's amusing to me that you suggest the reason they use fuels that break down over time is not because those are the better fuels, but only to require replacement.

That said, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the sentiment behind that, just that particular suggestion as a method for it :P

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 27 points 1 day ago

Alarming why? because our MAGA friends are

burning through the precision weapons at a rate that has alarmed some Pentagon officials

And that's what they're doing to the whole country.

If Russia weren't so busy in Ukraine they'd be ogling the USA already. And I mean getting more real than "hybrid".

[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What countries have weapons that can reach america?

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 6 points 1 day ago
[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Russia, China, France, India, and North Korea have ICBMs. UK doesn't but does have ballistic submarines

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump regime incompetently uses what the American people gave them authority over, alarming people who aren't complete idiots.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On the plus side, every one of these that they fire at Iran is one that they can no longer fire at domestic dissidents...

Iran's helping the American people revolt!

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