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[–] schwim@piefed.zip 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I absolutely love that the tyrannical bullying by the US is going to result in a globally-visible solar win.

That being said, now I worry that this administration will simply bomb them from existence to keep it from happening.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

It is hilarious how America is suiciding itself at multiple levels with its latest dick-wagging:

  • It's seriously pissing off its allies and pushing neutrals away.
  • It's showing the US' force projection capabilities as a much smaller and weaker stick than they have been boasted as being.
  • It's acceleraring the move away from Oil and the USD status as Reserve Currency is linked to Oil trade and when it ends, well, Helloo hyperinflation!
  • It's acceleraring the move away from Oil when the US is commercially doubling down on Oil, which means that the US is stuck in a commercially fast shrinking market and in developing yesterday's Technologies.

IMHO, we are right now living the end days of an Empire, something that even in the Modern Era only seems to happen maybe once a century.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So that "drill baby drill" didn't just backfire, it backfired spectacularly yo the point where I'm thinking that we still might have a chance to stop climate change. Thanks Cheetos!

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Putin & Trump will be sited as being responsible for the push, by the World, for more solar and electric energies. These oil dinosaurs are forcing people to choose green alternatives just to exist. Which is exactly what they both never wanted. hahahahaha

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly, Europe was about to declare gas energy plants as "clean energy" but only thanks to Putin they were able to 180 before ratification

[–] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

God I'd love to escape reliance on shitty power grids that usually end up torturing its citizens. Maybe once Orange Clown bites the dust we can FINALLY get some proper support for renewable energy like Solar Power.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Solar is already pretty popular in a lot of places, we're going to have to start building out grid-scale storage and increased transmission capability between the different countries of the EU now if we want to be truly independent of fossil fuels without spending a quadrillion euros on nuclear plants everywhere.

I live far enough north that in the summer we peak at 18 glorious hours of daylight. Electricity prices go negative at times, you have to stop selling to the grid or you'll lose money. But if you've got 18 hours of summer daylight, that means you have 18 hours of pitch black in the winter. The sun rises so low over the horizon that on the few days that it isn't overcast, solar panels barely produce anything. Solar doesn't produce anything for about 2-3 months. The difference as measured by a company doing home solar installations, is about 30x between the best and worst month. That's a company that wants to sell you solar, so they're not likely to overstate the reduction of efficiency in the winter.

We're then dependent on our fossil plants (somewhat unreliable), wind (somewhat unpredictable) and Finnish nuclear plants - but those power us through the underwater ESTLINK cables and those don't have enough bandwidth for heavy consumption periods, nor can the Finns sell everything they generate to us... And worst of all, some of that sweet nuclear power gets passed on to Latvia and Lithuania too. Oh and this is winter, where a lot of people need to run our heat pumps full blast at significantly reduced efficiency over spring/autumn time.

But at the same time, southern Europe isn't affected as much by the lower solar angles and shorter days. There's a reduction in generation for sure, but not comparable to northern Europe. If that electricity made its way here, we wouldn't have to run our fossil plants as much in the winter. With enough storage, perhaps it could even be enough to last through cold winter nights as well.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

meanwhile leaving their own countries lagging behind. "America First" lol.

[–] Miller@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Poor US always on the wrong side recently, and with such good intentions too.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Bwahaha... Good intentions, that's rich

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At what point will the USA admit their embargo was and is a huge fuck-up and an embarrassment? It's become a symbol of how full of crap we are. Has it been fifty years of this?

p.s. I looked it up because I'm dumb, it's been SIXTY-SIX YEARS. It's even older than me.

All the USA had to do for a fantastic ally by now is stop being an asshole. We could at least return the illegally seized Guantanamo Bay, which is kept just to insult them, really.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

But where will commit torture in legal ambuity if don't have a site off the coast on a land that isn't us jurisdiction but also not the jurisdiction of a country we recognize validty of their human rights laws?

Like it's a really special plot of land if are really trying to specialize in human rights abuse in internationally and domestically legally dubius ways.

All that say, honest wtf is wrong with some of these people

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (33 children)

Okay so let me go over this again as I have an idea...

Nation that's struggling with dependency on petroleum and unreliable supply chain turns to renewable energy. The solar energy is clean, reliable, requires little maintenance, and is helping that country become less reliant on foreign petroleum.

If that works for Cuba, a tiny nation with few resources, perhaps it would work in other more wealthy nations also. Perhaps if a nation were, say, reliant on petroleum to the point that they start multiple multinational wars to ensure their own access to oil, costing literally $trillions, it might be cheaper to put some or all of that money into renewable energy. Presumably China will sell their solar panels to whoever's buying, yes? So why wouldn't a larger, more developed country purchase them in great quantity so spending $trillions on military actions in the Middle East would no longer be necessary?
If a country like this has some of their own domestic oil production, wouldn't it be a desirable future to just walk away from the Middle East entirely, let the oil assholes kill each other without our involvement, and run the country for a few decades on sunshine? Use that money to buy solar panels literally by the boatload / container-ship-load (or buy the tech and manufacture them ourselves), and then national security is improved through removing foreign dependencies?

Or is this just crazy talk?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not crazy talk, Australia currently leads with the highest per-capita uptake of solar panels and it’s having a noticeable impact on our overall energy costs:

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/household-solar-electricity-generation-australian-national-accounts

We actually produce so much excess solar during peak times that households without panels can opt for electricity plans which offer free electricity between midday and 3pm every day (inc. weekends).

We’re also rolling out a heap of household batteries to better help take advantage of this surplus production and offset peak demand times too.

The world is rapidly approaching a post-fossil fuel world; the transition will be slow at first, and then drastic all of a sudden.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Australia is also central to renewables because of the number of articles on grid storage.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's infuriating how successful the oil companies have been at turning solar vs oil into a fucking culture war.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

ain't this the damn truth.

[–] mudmaniac@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If you switch to Solar, THE COMMIES WIN.

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 1 week ago

Or said country simply likes killing people around the world and oil is a convenient excuse.

[–] Leather@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Have you even said thank you to the oil companies?!

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now, just take that analysis a little bit further by adding the consideration that those elected to manage the nation aren't actually doing that and wondering why.

I bet it will yield interesting results about whose interests such people really serve.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, you're saying my Congresscritter who only shows up every few years to demand my vote (because it's ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THIS YEAR that we defeat the other party) isn't actually laser-focused on my needs as a citizen?

That seems unpossible.

:P

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only place I've ever heard "congresscritter" was Rush Limbaugh or other right wing commenter. It makes me cringe every time.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

I thought it was just a phrase in general circulation. I've actually never once listened to Rush Limbaugh. I find most political content unintelligent and uninteresting and generally prefer to just read facts and draw my own conclusions. My brain seems to work pretty well and I prefer not to have my conclusions drawn for me.

[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yes but what about the oil companies’ profits? Have you even considered their feelings?

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Now add corporate lobbying and campaign donations into this model and suddenly the math will start mathing.

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