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[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 8 points 18 hours ago
[–] Comrade_Cat@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

Look I’m all for science and modern medicine, but there is absolutely no fucking way that I would trust anything from a biotech startup in the USA. There’s absolutely no safeguards in place to prevent these people from doing the most depraved shit for a buck. Same reason I’m so leery of organ donation in the USA, these ghoulish companies will destroy hospitals for profit, you think they’re not itching to rip your organs out as soon as possible to make even more money? I get it, organ donation is objectively good. Don’t get mad at me, get mad at our insane capitalist hellscape.

[–] nasezero@hexbear.net 13 points 21 hours ago

This sounds absolutely horrific. We should do it to billionaires' brains.

[–] Soot@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I really, really, REALLY suspect that the donor in this case did not realise his brain would be resurrected and tortured. We have no way of knowing this isn't the worst torture ever inflicted, all on a nonconsenting person.

I'mma go update my will to say my body specifically should not be donated to science. Cremation please. Jesus.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Torment Nexus type beat. This feels like an artifact of the old idea that the brain stands alone from the body somehow when in fact the neural system is highly integrated with every other part of the body. That shit from the other day about how adjusting the gut microbiome can reduce psychological symptoms of autism for instance. What are we actually gaining by dosing nonfunctional brains with mystery drugs?

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 15 hours ago

Torment Nexus type beat.

there's no physical or biological reason to think a standalone brain is conscious of anything. by the time we're scooping a brain out of a skull the processes that make someone a person are long gone and this isn't much different from hooking electrodes up to muscle tissue.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

??? There's like seventy different ways this could be useful. You can tell if a drug is absorbed by the right parts of the brain, how long a drug stays in neural tissue, and just have a better result for the same kinds of tests you would get from neural tissue testing.

What's more suspect is that this is an ai tech startup.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

With our research on disembodied human brains and the impacts of various psychoactive chemicals on its functioning, we've trained a neural-network that can help us align our AI models in such a way that induce similar levels of psychoactivity simply through active engagement with our large language models.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 10 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Friendly reminder to not be an organ donor in amerikkka

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

do organ donation but only to other patients, never donate your body to any cause because it'll end up in an israeli artillery range

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Without people donating their bodies we would have no doctors.

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

then the US medical boards better get their shit together and stop giving people's bodies to the military.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, I'm not against the idea in general. Just the idea of more shareholder value being extracted from me after my death or being used to fuel the military industrial complex or some shitty AI research sucks.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

you can't take your organs with you

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 3 points 18 hours ago

Toss em in the trash and let a big birb munch on my microplastics

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 12 points 23 hours ago

Organ donation is necessary and good. Donating your body to science gets iffy because so many creeps have latched on to that system but is still on the whole very good.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Why? The way the article reads, this is good work that could lead to helping a lot of folks. Also, being an organ donor here is not the same as donated to science. Also this skips the largely useless use of nonhuman animals as test subjects, sparing at least some suffering by an unconsenting party.

Fuck this country, for sure, but man don't shit on science that can do real good.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (24 children)
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Come on dude. At least link to like that time they blew uo someone's grandma "for alzheimers research." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49198405

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[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago

The torment nexus meme is overused BUT THEY KEEP INVENTING IT

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nope. No. Fuck that. That is the kind of thing that makes my skin crawl. Do not mess with brains. We don't know enough yet to ethically mess with brains in that way

The brains are already almost devoid of the coordinated neural firing necessary even for minimal consciousness, says Brendan Parent, a bioethicist at New York University Langone Health and one of six ethicists on Bexorg’s advisory board. But the company also forestalls any electrical activity with the anesthetic propofol, among other measures.

There's no way we know enough about brains to know that for sure

Car adds that because the brains lack electrical activity, they may not indicate whether a drug will cause seizures, although the company plans to eventually remove the anesthesia from some brain slices. Car says other models can fill in the gaps.

FUCK YOUUUUU

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 13 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

ethicists

Zero trust in American, British, German, or French ethicists; zero trust in ethicists from pro-Israel\colonial nations

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Ethicist, especially bioethicist, is a job yhat specifically involves justifying experiments. You don't hire an in-house ethicist to tell you no.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 4 points 20 hours ago

So basically the scientific equivalent of Western journalism

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Car adds that because the brains lack electrical activity, they may not indicate whether a drug will cause seizures, although the company plans to eventually remove the anesthesia from some brain slices. Car says other models can fill in the gaps.

that's nice

popuko-gun

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Listen if you cant experiment on a post morten "Brain slice" with no electrical activity you just can't touch neurons period.

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