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I know there are similar communities like !buyitforlife@slrpnk.net about finding products that you don't break after a year, and any number of buy<insert_country_here> communities. I'm looking for a community specifically for finding reputable products that aren't sold on Amazon, regardless of where the seller or buyer is, and regardless of the ethos of the seller beyond making quality products.

Edit:

There's also !deamazon@piefed.social, but that's more about general anti-Amazon sentiment than specifically helping steer people away from Amazon's online retail monopoly.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 hours ago

For Germany, this webpage lists a bunch of online retailers, sorted into product categories: https://lmaa.space/

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I just buy most things in person. If that fails I do a web search and buy from another platform. So I'm not sure how much there is to talk about but maybe I'm missing something.

If you have questions or ideas/resources it probably makes the most sense to just post on the existing de-Amazon com, since the audience there is likely to be interested. With the size of Lemmy it's important not to separate our communities that are too niche, or they won't really fire.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

No idea, but it's great that many of y'all and us are doing this. Buy local, buy from worker co-ops, buy from ethical countries!

I'd recommend to also use Buybeaver & No Thanks, to boycot the US and the like. Generally I exclude Russia & Belarus, most of the Middle East (Israel included), and North & Middle Africa.

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 39 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I want more on this too. Amazon's monopoly has made it so hard to find alternative online stores to buy a lot of stuff, particularly if I don't already know the name of a trusted manufacturer off the top of my head. Even competitor companies like Target and Walmart often offer less selection with higher prices and slower shipping. Also why is it that online retailers seem so scammy these days? Most brands seem to be new/disposable Chinese company names I've never heard of and reviews seem inflated/bot generated.

It seems like my local thrift store has the best quality to price for a lot of stuff, but they don't always have something I'm looking for

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Drop shipping has become a really big thing online. I just watched a video about people creating fake sad stories to push "handmade products". All cheap mass manufactured shit from China.

Hard to find legit businesses right off the rip since it seems everyone is trying to scam these days.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I see it on social media all the time, some sob story about how “we are closing our store of handmade stuff due to personal circumstances, please buy our stuff at 90% off!” And it’s mass produced Chinese crap that is way overpriced even at supposedly “90% off”. People fall for it all the time.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Amazon’s monopoly has made it so hard to find alternative online stores to buy a lot of stuff

Where in the world do you live? Don't you have price comparison websites with a lot of different online stores? We do for my country.

[–] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 1 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

Gonna guess Idealo and Geizhals. They don't cover everything, but they're pretty decent, yeah.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 19 minutes ago

I was thinking of geizhals.at which is usually where I go first when I need to buy anything online. Sometimes Amazon is the cheapest option, and then I buy from Amazon, but many times something else is!

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

There was, but it's shipped by Amazon. The site just redirects to an Amazon store.

[–] faltryka@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That would be great! I cancelled my subscription and have been trying to buy direct for a while now.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Some businesses won't sell direct, like 3M or most tool brands. But yes, you can often find things on the brand sites.

Amazon and Walmart are for things you can’t find anywhere else, but neither need the membership to make it happen. Strangely, Walmart is better quality lately.

[–] early_riser@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

In the case of tools I'll shop at a hardware store, usually Ace, either in person or on their online store.

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Would Grainger or McMaster Carr fill in the 3M/tool gap?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

You can have a good laugh at Grainger's prices on just about everything. They exist purely to rip off other businesses with large expense accounts, in the "don't care, it ain't my money" tradition.

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Nice! Thanks for updating us. Joined!

[–] EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

Unsure how much better ebay and etsy are but I often use amazon to research products and either find a way to direct order or use ebay instead.

One of my hobbies is fucking amazon over. Often I'll order from both amazon and ebay (or direct from manufacturer), the item comes from amazon in two days and start using it, when the same item comes from ebay I'll return the used one back to amazon and keep the ebay bought one.

edit: another way to fuck amazon over is to find the item used (cheaper) on ebay, buy it and order same one new from amazon, hold onto for few weeks and send the used one back to amazon. Fuck them entirely.

I only do these with items shipping from amazon warehouses, not private sellers.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck amazon (and fuck ebay amazon dropshippers too). But you're that impatient you need to waste time and energy shipping something back and forth? (and likely having that product end up in an amazon discard bin anyway)

Their price already accounts for returns. You are just fucking over the delivery drivers who have quotas to meet.

[–] Deckname@feddit.org 0 points 4 hours ago

Thank you for pointing out the obvious, that apparently has not come to that guys mind.

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Amazon will drop customers who return too many items. They have to protect themselves from ongoing fraud just like every retailer.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 4 points 4 hours ago

Etsy has been more or less swamped with TEMU crap that can be shipped for free. If you don’t offer free shipping TEMU, I mean Etsy, wont show people your stuff. It’s like having the word dead in a YouTube vid, the Algorithm doesn’t like it.

Of course you can bake shipping into the price, but then you’re $5-$20 more expensive than the TEMU with better images section of Etsy.

Sure, there are real people, but they’re hard to find or be.

eBay is a mixed bag, and shipping is often $10-20.