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[–] OnfireNFS@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

How many times did they "sunset" gear over the years?

4 or 5? I'm surprised they kept doing it with how much it seemed to alienate the player base every time

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I miss when video game companies made video games and not "not live service models."

[–] Hazmatastic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man, I was hooked for a long time before I woke up and smelled the business model. I haven't touched it in years, but I do miss the lore. Always thought it was their strong suit. Maybe they can set a better, non-live-service game in the same universe, but this is Bungie. Not gonna happen...

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I bought the Destiny PS4 when the game launched. I knew I was basically signing up for World of Halocraft and all the bs that comes with it.

But what did surprise me was how poor the execution was. Every single DLC made all the previous gear/items COMPLETELY USELESS.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah. I quit when a green floor item was a higher light level than the legendary yellow emperor launcher.

It was so liberating to just.. uninstall and never look back, lol

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

isn't this how MMOs work ? you're asking for horizontal fearing which is less traditionally(GW2 does it) but most MMOs do not.

[–] Solstice_11@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

FFXIV also kinda avoids this as well, if you grind for endgame gear it tends to carry you to a little over the halfway point or to the end of the next expansion before the patch cycles start. Like gear from 7.55 (last patch of old expansion) should carry you through most of 8.0 (new expansion launch).

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

This not true, FFXIV is a vertical gear tread mil.

The only reason you can do the story with low ilvl is because the story is not end game content which is what gearing is for. The story might as well not have an associated ilvl and it wouldn't impact the story experience at all. It only exists to make normal mode players feel like there's some level of progression.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not exactly. Did you play the first seasons? Basically every dlc there were items you'd farm to buy gear (or something it's been a decade now and I forget) that became completely obsolete when the next dlc came out.

Most rpgs you can sell those items. But in Destiny you had to delete them.

I played tf out of MMOs. It wouldn't have stood out to me if it was at all a typical experience.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

I swore that Bungie was dead to me the moment they walked back their plans to carry player gear over from D1 to D2. Every single thing I've ever learned about D2 has been secondhand and it has all completely validated that decision.

[–] nicpicname@lemmy.zip -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, there was a sequel to Destiny?

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Yup, and it was a shameless money grab.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now that they've given up on it they are going to open it up to Linux, right?

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[–] devolution@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Unpopular Opinion: It should have ended after The Final Shape, not hobbled along.

[–] Zaraki42@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

Not unpopular at all. That's precisely when I stopped.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

Me: "The Final Shape, huh? Is this going to be the final expansion? I'm several DLCs behind."

Bungie: "We've got another one planned. And a Star Wars crossover too."

Me: "Oh fuck off now. Peace out."

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Destiny 2 died a long time ago. Sure people were playing with its corpse but they’re finally getting bored with that too. Shame bc there’s a lot of fun stuff in there (especially the stuff they ripped away from their paying customers already) that will go away forever.

[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Died when they decided to put the onus of their development debt onto paying customers and throw shit they paid for in the trash.

[–] GoodStuffEh@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Dude I distinctly remember the day I logged back on after a few months away to find entire planets just removed. Literally played for 5 minutes until I got mad and haven't been back since.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

I had a friend trying to get me into the game. I was like, the game has been out for years, surely they have a ton of old content to play through.

Nope, they just deleted a ton of it. My friend's reasoning? I kid you not: The game got too big.

I still bought in, only to find ALL of the hostile anti consumer practices, and then some more I'd never even seen before. Separate dungeon keys sold separately. Holy shit that same was so trash. What a waste of money. Whoever came up with and greenlit those business practices should be put on a public list.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

I had only recently gotten into the game when they did that. I hadn't quite got to play some of the content they "vaulted". I quite literally never logged in again.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd love if SKG was able to get some wins before they pull the plug entirely. Allow the community to keep it running, let them restore the lost content, unlock/add cosmetics, etc etc.

A guy can dream...of essentially what games were 15-20 years ago.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

If I could play the two games from start to finish right now, I probably would. As it stands, I don't regret sitting this out.

[–] JohnDarlen@lemmy.today 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is the game I put more time on my entire life. I ditched it back in 2022-2023. Greed ruins everyone's lives, that's all I can say.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Shit man, I quit after a couple years of playing the first one. Too much time researching and not enough playing. That's when I decided I was done with these games that don't give you all the info you need in the game itself. Don't think I ever even installed 2. Doesn't even work on Linux.

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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Warframe gonna get a shit ton of new players.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 13 points 2 days ago

Bungie believes they’ll play Marathon. lol

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Wake up, Tenno...

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

Thank goodness they didn't over deliver.

I am so spiteful that the upper/middle management destroyed a game with so much potential just to chase MTX and bonuses.

[–] NehpetsDoom@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 days ago (24 children)

Y'all ate slop so they slopped it up even more.

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[–] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I bailed on Destiny 2 after Shadowkeep when they announced content vaulting and I never looked back. The writing was on the wall back then that the game will end up in a ditch. My experience with Destiny 2 is basically frozen as of Shadowkeep so it's relatively positive but I just can't understand how anyone could tolerate player hostile decisions Bungie has made over the years. Here is Aztecross' video explaining some of them including pay to win elements. His video is already two years old so I'm sure even more nonsense has been added to the game since. Destiny franchise started out as something special but it died as a horrific heap of anticonsumer garbage due to unchecked greed of a corporation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsIdPWB2_JA

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ngl this video pissed me off so much just now that I don't want to play any games with any microtransactions at all.

Devs will try anything to make money except making a fun game

Edit: oof. That video ended with "I'll still buy macrotransactions quarterly. Making it stop is impossible."

How did he get so close, yet when faced with "we are a business and have to make money", totally caved to late stage capitalism. Destiny players are all cognitively deficient addicts. Late state capitalism is here to stay because everybody's fucking stupid with no spine.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

I am eager to hear Skeletor's opinion on this.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wish I could care but I never got to play Destiny 2 since they never supported Linux. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll do a replay of the original Marathon in honor of old-Bungie. 🍷

[–] directive0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

See ya starside!

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Been dead to me since no Linux support.

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[–] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't a game that is still playable call "be dead". Destiny 2 enters the "retirement" stage.

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