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I'm thinking even for cases of like shrinkflation.

I saw an article about potentially cheaper RAM here, so it got me curious if things ever really get better on occasion.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

American beer. Used to be just be the macro brews with corn, rice and other adjuncts.

[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

British beer too.

Watney's and a small number of other breweries had a stranglehold on the UK pub industry because they owned a lot of pubs and could exclusively force their own brands upon their locations. Their Red Barrel bitter pissed people off so much that it led to the creation of CAMRA, an organisation that campaigns for real ale.

CAMRA formed from four ale enthusiasts on holiday in Dublin who were lamenting about the dogshit state of British beer. It was a very successful movement...

I can think of two cases that might qualify: The American meat industry and the Austrian wine industry.

In the former case, public outrage over Upton Sinclair's book The Jungle caused legislation and regulation. In the latter case, the wine industry got so cheap that they started back-sweetening rotgut with antifreeze and poisoned a bunch of people, and they had a choice: Rebrand to impeccable quality or die as a national industry.

[–] KatherinaReichelt@feddit.org 60 points 2 days ago (14 children)

You really should read Cory Doctorows original analysis where he coined the term "enshittification". He has written a book about this and it really is great. The point is that for companies to be able to enshittify their products, they need to be in a specific position. Esp. in regards of competition - if there is a market and other companies are able to offer non-enshittified products, you can't. If you are a monopoly, you totally can fuck over your users. So for an industry to un-enshittify, you need to break the monopoly structures there, kill regulatory capture, try to kill network effects and bring real competition into the industry.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

If you are a monopoly

You also can do it if you're syndicate

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

nursing, bad example. but a while ago it was getting so bad with the shortages, there still is and still bad. but they can go the travelling nursing route which is more lucrative and payout is more massive than a standard hospital. they make way more if not as much as some MDs. Hosptials/networks thought they can enshittfy by staffing less, but they realized more patients were getting maimed, died due to neglect. and they are apparently paying out the ass in underserved areas just to attract nurses back.

not so for MDs, apparently many insurance, or hospitals are forcing them go through more patients per hour/day then before.

[–] mursejoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes! Nursing really is having a resurgence. Pay is keeping up with cost of living in my area and travel contracts show promising wages in the areas I’m going next. Much better than it was 2019-2023. Those were some PTSD inducing years.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

travelling nurses specifically have more flexibility with thier jobs so to speak, if one hospital is shitty, you can just go to another city/reigion. although covid has made nursing quit in hospitals, havnt heard so much on the other option.

[–] YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Physicians have a lot of problems preventing us from demanding our worth because we can't collectively bargain like nurses can. I wish I'd gone the other route but I think if I had I would have regretted it too.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

if you can tolerate patients, thier excretions, thier attitude nursing is for you, or hours. nurses do get shit from MDs they are working under, once while i waiting at an ENT waiting room, the ENT i was seeing went off on a poor nurse, CNA? for apparently making me only do a phone call with him and wasting his time by going in person(if he indicated first lol, how was i suppose ot know that) then i realize he was just a very jaded MD lazy.(thats when his attitude change towards me very passive aggressive.

[–] YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club 1 points 8 hours ago

I really want to respond to this with a real comment that comes from a place of passion and honesty but I can't if you type like that. Sorry, can't take you seriously.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

strictly in the context of the title alone, video games.

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Video games are at an all time enshitified state. What are you going on about?! You must not be following the whole market.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago

Everyone and their dog is making games these days, so it's very easy, if you're choosy, to never have firsthand experience of a bad game anymore. The only thing holding us back is listening to adverts that over-promise and ever pre-ordering anything. We don't need them anymore.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i was referring to atari in the 80s

anway...

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, video games went through an early enshitification cycle. Atari came out and was all the rage as people made games exploring what could be done, which attracted money, which attracted grifters as well as impatient executives. Between them, a lot of garbage got released to the point where the video games industry pretty much died. Nintendo revived it with the NES and their licensing program that meant someone there had to agree a game was at a certain level before they could even publish it.

Over time, the video games industry grew to the point where it is large enough to survive a wave of shitty games, even if those games are released by the ones normally expected to know what they are doing but don't because MBAs come in with "optimizations" that ruin things, plus sometimes brag (or are otherwise obvious enough) about what thet are doing to the point where people turn against them.

So even though the video games industry has come up with new ways of enshitification that the 80s grifters would have creamed their pants over, there's enough competition that understands that enough people don't really want or like that to thrive without doing it.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

What are you talking about? There are hundreds of great games being released, the gaming industry is a lot more than a couple of big corps.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The indie game scene is thriving and while there's a lot of crap out there, it's not really what I'd consider enshitified.

On the other hand, AAA games and anything mobile is absolutely enshitified.

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[–] SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app 288 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Very briefly, after the CEO of United Health was killed, insurance companies were accepting claims they otherwise would have rejected.

[–] Soulifix@piefed.world 127 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Welp, gotta kill another then.

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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Maybe the porn industry? It was rife with abuse and financially yoked its porn stars. Then things like OnlyFans came along and now adult entertainers have full control of their content and careers.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 0 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

They're still getting pimped by influencers, they take a percentage, prob most of them arent tho

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 0 points 22 hours ago

They also don't need to make the same insane amount of content to make way more money.

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[–] Bubs12@lemmy.cafe 96 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Book stores come to mind. Barnes and Noble killed local book stores and then Amazon killed Barnes and Noble which left an opening for local independent book stores to come back

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[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 192 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Video games

Had a huge crash around the Atari era due to an overwhelming amount of shovelware being published. Games were also extremely expensive then

Nintendo famously reversed this crisis with the introduction of the NES and their “Nintendo seal of quality”. Consumers were able to access a curated collection of quality games, and it really turned things around and basically launched the modern gaming industry

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[–] karpintero@lemmy.world 88 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Coffee perhaps. I think previous generations were more apt to just get a tub of Folgers or Maxwell House and not care too much about what they were drinking. Then third wave coffee shops started emphasizing quality, process, and flavor nuances. These days, you can find specialty coffee in most areas or get high-quality beans delivered and brew it yourself.

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[–] Vibi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 128 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I got curious and did a bit of searching since I couldn't really think of anything. Apparently Fender (guitars) was originally amazing, was sold to another company and really degraded in overall quality, and then was purchased back by some of its engineers and returned to a better quality. Pretty nice to see that people who were actually passionate about something regaining control and saving something they loved.

https://www.soundunlimited.co.uk/blogs/articles/fender_timeline

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