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What did Trump mean by this?

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is absolutely essential that the wording in the section of the Lebanon front is completely impossible to interpret in any slimy ways. Israel will use any loophole they can to continue it.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

Even if it's worded well, Netanyahu (Milekowsky) in HEBREW told Israelis that the deal on the table for Lebanon was a cessation of violence on BOTH sides and that he absolutely will not be going along with it

And the news of course will see Israel's actions in Lebanon and claim the ceasefire is holding despite Israel 'testing' the ceasefire, a test Lebanese forces would not be considered allowed to do

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

You say that as an insult but I recall that one of the leading mindsets behind Israel's dahiya doctrine was to EXPLICITLY behave as a rabid dog in their attacks so as to deter through fear any attacks on them

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

This honestly goes both ways (between the US and Israel I mean). Sometimes Israel does some negotiating then Trump ties them to some absurd demands.

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i won't doompost because this deal will probably be violated as soon as it is reached, if israel and US don't start bombing before that, but no reparations and no toll (no chance with oman involved) with no sanction removal (there's absolutely no way the "agree on nuclear issue" will happen at all) while the economy is getting turbofucked setting the stage for probably another round of israeli riots in the fall, there's really not a lot to be optimistic about.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly how do you negotiate with people who don't believe in negotiations; if America and Israel wouldn't negotiate when they're in a position of strength, then they're just trying to con you when they do it from a position of weakness/equality. Neither the US government nor Israel believe in negotiations

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

that is part of the issue. not only they don't want to negotiate, they don't understand negotiating. they are removeds, if you are strong they push you if you are weak they push harder. anything besides this was not a realistic option. the first time hormuz was declared open IRGC immediately closed it because trump tweeted thanks but the blockade will stay, so hopefully if any violations happen they will use their leverage again.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Would it be funny, sad, infuriating or a combination of all three if his approval rating goes up after ending a war he single-handedly started?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

I find it kind and funny and I find it kind of sad,

The dreams in which I'm Jokerfied,

Are the best I ever had...

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Huh. I totally thought they start bombing again this holiday weekend since the markets are closed on Monday.

Did the US finally learn its lesson?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did the US finally learn its lesson?

idk but it wouldn't surprise me if Trump got bored and frustrated with Iran so the next big thing is Cuba

[–] BonsaiBoo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

This and he might not have sundowned in this cycle yet, I've dealt with sundowning and when it happens they are full of energy and enraged and think everyone is out to kill them. It wouldn't surprise me if suddenly he kills the deal and attacks because he's in the middle of an episode soon.

[–] MeetMeAtTheMovies@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m surprised we’re not back to bombing already honestly. I don’t see how the US can save face if Iran gets nuclear and I don’t see any reason why Iran wouldn’t immediately pursue nuclear as aggressively as possible after all this shit.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

If I had to guess I'd say the military are shockingly low on munitions, or even important munitions, or even that Iran's attacks on vital surveillance systems in the Middle East was too great to go back to attacking Iran again; also possible governments in the Middle East probably secretly threatened to break ties with America all of them together and pivot to China if they made the situation bad again. America can't go to war with Iran AND attack Middle Eastern (former) allies without 1. looking extremely bad and irrational, and 2. just not a fight the government can win without consequences (for one thing the Middle East could probably just cut all fuel sales worldwide)

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Does this mean Iran has nukes now?