I hate my government so much (germany)
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Officials from the countries want to keep state-level control, and have expressed concerns that banning products from Huawei Technologies and other Chinese suppliers at the EU level risks retaliation from Beijing, the people said, asking not to be identified as the discussions are not public.
If China retaliates, that basically means the security concerns were warranted. Sure it is not great for Beijing, but also not big business either.
Countries retaliate against protectionist policies all the time. Is it only evidence of espionage when China does it or is the whole world spying on each other?
There are also a bunch cases of where China decided against retaliatory tarrifs.
There are whole lists of retaliatory tarrifs that the EU has enacted and it's one of the standard remedies in a WTO dispute.
No it was does not mean that, it can simply mean that if EU makes more difficult for chinese companys to work in EU they will also do the same to EU companies. That's simply reciprocity
You sound like a Chinese chill. It already is quite difficult for non Chinese to operate in China and they are heavily discriminated against. Getting to parity isn't necessarily a good thing, but not going there for the risk of causing offense is surrendering your sovereignty.
Except the fact that what you are saying now is completely irrelevant to what was said before
China retaliating doesn't mean the security concerns are warranted.
Not sure why are you trying to move the goal post
Last time the EU did this, Ericsson stock fell & they lost billion in Chinese contracts.
So Europe should surrend it's sovereignty, ok commander clown.ml
Sure it is not great for Beijing, but also not big business either.
That's assuming it only stops there; you could make a compelling argument that even with no foul play it's in China's best interests to put its foot down before European protectionism starts eating into its geopolitical strategy and/or bottom line.
the whole, oh no, china might retaliate, is the same attitude as, we can't tax billionaires cuz they might leave.
Now do the same with US gear and suddenly there are no options left.
Normally I would say at least the US are seen as allies, but I don't think friendly countries are threatening to invade you.
Nokia and Ericsson are theoretically competing, and these talks about bans are likely the result of their lobbying efforts.
Aren't they already Chinese owned or am I wrong on that?
I looked it up, it seems that they are European - my bad.
The more immediate concern is probably to ban American network equipment. Since we know for a fact that has been used by CIA to spy on non American companies.
There is still no evidence that Huawei spies on Europeans, despite it's more than a decade since USA made the claim. USA has never been able to show anything supporting their claim, that to me seems like a "No You!" incident. And Huawei is offering full disclosure on their equipment.
But if we can use Nokia or Siemens or Ericsson instead I'm all for it. But as I understand it they are way behind on the necessary technologies to be competitive. Meaning the entire European mobile infrastructure will be noncompetitive.
Our security is not good if we rely on the security of the network. We have to assume that western gear is hacked anyway. As long as the internet can route around the equipment in case of trouble, everything is ok. It might even be helpful if we have a conflict within the EU or with the US.
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