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[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I would have to see crash and accident data concurrent with the change before I say anything.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

This. Higher speeds in isolation mean nothing if the design of the streets keep drivers equally safe at those higher speeds.

I mean, it’s usually Germany and other neighbours in Europe that put such forethought intentionally into the designs of roads (look up the YouTube channel Not Just Bikes for more info), but we occasionally have strange confluences over here, too

[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Speed cameras are practically a requirement in Korea. People here would be blasting through school zones at 100kph otherwise. No joke. As it is, you can see rich fucks in their fancy cars ignoring them since the only punishment is a fine that they wouldn't even notice.

Bali Bali culture indeed.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Speed cameras definitely work, they're getting better at catching folks as the technology matures.

Of course, they're also a form of state surveillance, generally deployed as a money printer, and generally distract drivers (you see those lines on the road, your vision tunnels, you check speed, and you lose peripheral for about 1--2 seconds).

[–] dai@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

The seatbelt and phone cameras here in Australia are rather interesting to view the captures from. Working for a government body people would come in to our self service area and want to view the photos (which can be done at home, on your phone or pc); they'd get in a bit of a huff and puff once they saw the images.

The angles these cameras are placed get most angles drivers try to hide their phone usage, and the resolution is decent considering the cameras distance away.

Cameras catching distracted drivers are a great win in my eyes, no one should be fumbling their phone while trying to drive.

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

If you get distracted from a speed camera you should not be allowed to drive. You are the problem.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You’re not gonna get me to agree on this one. I have gotten two speeding tickets for going 2km over. Thats nothing but another way to fleece and steal from the working class. We all know where the speeders and racers hang out and the cops don’t do shit

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

It's so selfishly myopic to look at the differences in fatality between 40 and 50, to look at the effects on driving speeds that these camera have, and then conclude, "This is a pointless money grab!" Like, dude, you're clearly lying to yourself out loud. The lies we tell ourselves are not convincing to others.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Devils advocate: if they are catching such slim margins they equally should be catching people going 5, 10 or 15 over of not more and actually being dangerous.

Yes it sucks to get fined for being in the margin of error, but if it was anywhere a residential or school zone I'd say it's worth it given how easy it is for a child to wander into the street and how little it takes for a car to seriously harm or kill said child.

The best solution is just better public transit so people don't feel the need to drive but getting more drivers to drive safer is a good first step

[–] GodofLies@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (8 children)

They'll do anything to actually fix the root of the problem. Speed cameras is an invisible deterrent and usually highly unpopular. What they should have done is change the road design. Anything less is a cash grab since the fines doesn't go back into the road system directly to actually induce long term change.

We also need to talk about the capabilities of modern cars, licensing, and the age and capabilities of the drivers on the road.

Newer cars these days have sensors with emergency braking, but this is not foolproof. However, we know that cars can be made to have more safety features for not only the passengers of the car, but also those on the road. So when will the government mandate more safety features of driving a multi-ton steel box? Here's another more extreme solution, if the highest speed limit in the entirely of Canada is for example...120km/h - then why allow cars go faster than that?

Licensing has been inconsistent. Looking at the kinds of driving happening on the road these days lack of signalling, impaired driving, erratic driving, spatial awareness of other drivers - it's clear that people are getting licensed somehow, one way or another. There's even been cases of delivery truck drivers operating without a valid license.

Then there's the age aspect and those that lack skill due to how little some people drive. You see people with 20+ year old cars and you look inside and it's an elderly person driving below the speed limit. They're causing a massive jam - yet nothing is done about it. In the eyes of the law, they're driving safely. You and everyone's time be damned eh?

Or how about we actually invest in good, cheap, efficient public transport? An actual rail network? A highspeed rail network? Oh wait - this is Canada, we can't have that. We're too fucking broke to have anything these days and gotta go around and beg private capital to come in to 'save us'. Canada Strong alright./s

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

Anything less is a cash grab since the fines doesn’t go back into the road system directly to actually induce long term change.

Your username is fitting with this one.

Every single municipality I checked out when these first came into effect put all funds above operation fees into road reconstruction for traffic calming measures. I worked with the City of Barrie to directly do a traffic calming assessment primarily funded through the use of traffic cameras.

Or how about we actually invest in good, cheap, efficient public transport? An actual rail network? A highspeed rail network?

I agree, but go check out the comments and petitions against the new high-speed line proposed and you'll see that were in the minority.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Great, so now we know the areas where the posted speeds should be increased 🤷‍♂️

[–] hefty4871@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I thought speed cameras were originally only in school zones.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

No idea, they had some outside of school zones near me

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Oh, well yeah it'd go up where the cameras were posted, how is this surprising?

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Less than ten percent? Not good but I'm surprised it isn't more tbh. I've noticed it especially at rush hour, people whipping through side streets to save eleven seconds

15 km/h faster than the limit is obviously dangerous in most places, you need reduced survival instincts for that

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