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What about a tornado?

I'm pretty high right now.

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

It is terrible.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In both cases, borrowing the words of stand-up drunkard Ron White, "It's not that the wind is blowing; it's what the wind is blowing."

The house itself should be well waterproofed, the problems come from broken windows, punctured roof due to falling trees, or in a tornado, just being pushed over.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

So you're saying we should use Bubble wrap instead. Got it!

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

It couldnt hurt provided you remove it immediately after the storm is over and you would need to use something substantially stronger than kitchen grade wrap. Think industrial pallet wrap and a LOT of it definitely a large expense and a mountain of work for a questionable level of protection.

Practically speaking though it could prevent a lot of minor storm damage and prevent it from becoming large damage, would definitely protect the windows to some degree and secure items so they dont get ripped off the house.

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I grew up in Jamaica and our house didn't actually have solid outer walls. Our house had decorative brick that allowed wind to blow through the house...without blowing it down. Our house is still standing today, and has survived multiple hurricanes.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago

So you live in a gazebo.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Is it really a house if it doesn’t stop the wind or rain?

[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It has a roof...and interior walls, but no exterior walls.

[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

So it’s more of a cubicle than a house then?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 21 hours ago

Thank you for clarifying, because while I had a vague idea, I wasn't sure.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 22 hours ago

I think this would depend on the house being designed for this in the first place. A long time back I recall reading about how non-flow-through houses would endure high winds in a hurricane or tornado until one of the windows broke, at which point the hole in the house allowed the wind to ram air in (or suck air out depending on which way the hole was facing) and the whole house would disintegrate.

If my recollection is correct then there might be a slight benefit in the house-wrapping idea in that it might do a bit to prevent a hole like that from being taken advantage of. But only a slight benefit. Probably better to just do the traditional nailing of plywood over windows and such.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would just be a waste of plastic.

This is like asking which color you should paint your house to prevent fire.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Gloss White, technically. It reflects more radiant heat from a bushfire. Not a game changer but could give a very mild advantage.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 4 points 15 hours ago

How about metallic paints? Want to test my chrome house against your white house.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

if you want mold in your house, yes. better to reinforce the house, or build it out bricks/concrete. plus, plastics smells when it heats up overtime and degrades releasing chemicals.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 21 hours ago

modern houses are already wrapped in tyvek which is super strong but it is inside the exterior shell.

[–] BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh shit....

brick house, concrete, or wood house?

[–] Slovene85@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

*brick house, wood house or straw house

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin!

[–] db2@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 6 points 23 hours ago

I swear I knew what it was going to be before I clicked on it

OR I'LL BLOW YOUR HOUSE IN!!

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It would create more of a barrier for wind and water to get caught in which could result in much more structural damage. My understanding is you WANT the air to flow through a house unabated in both situations as it would remove the instances of areas of very different air pressure which would result in essentially an air explosion.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So if there is a tornado coming, should I run around opening windows?

Realistically if a tornado is bearing down on your home, get to safety. Just don't be surprised if the house starts to "breathe" around you as it gets closer.

Also history has shown that if you can do that before a tornado it helps. Mainly that people have literally been sucked out of windows or doors that burst open from the pressure differentials. Is it 100%? No, but from my reading, education, and direction from more experienced people if you live in a house do it before the tornado comes if you're concerned. Just that there's pros and cons for either situation.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This is the correct answer.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Kind of - you’ll also get wind uplift if you have openings in those situations.

Yeah, there's no 100% to saving your house. It's more important to have somewhere safe to stay during the highest winds and pressures.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 9 points 23 hours ago

Houses are already wrapped with materials like Tyvek, before the exterior is put on.

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think wind is the biggest problem for hurricanes, unless you are in the storm surge. Wrap probably won’t help, and would get torn up by debris if the wind doesn’t rip it off. How thick are we talking?

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 7 points 21 hours ago

Maybe like a foot to cushion your house when it lands.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I’ve through three major hurricanes: Irma, Ian, and Milton. Irma was okay, Milton was bad, Ian was baaad.

Short answer: nope.

  • It would not hold up.

  • New houses are built to crazy code anyway.

  • The big risk is flooding, and a tarp won’t do anything about it.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

Yes absolutely

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Having a proper, stable house would be a better option. Those American stick and cardboard houses are not made to last.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah, yes, good ole ignorant jingoism.

You probably don't know that code in Florida has required concrete reinforced cinder block 1st floor for residential houses since the 90''s, because that's what can withstand hurricanes and flooding. Typical block construction only requires concrete and rebar reinforcement at windows, doorways, etc, while this code requires it in every other opening, thereby tying every course together, from first to last. This prevents flood surges from weakening the structure, and also provides a physical barrier for objects flying at 100mph+.

Code has also required hurricane straps on every rafter, since forever.

There's probably a lot more code I don't know.

But here you'd have them build houses out of stone which wouldn't withstand flooding, unlike reinforced and anchored block, cause in your hubris you think you know something.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

That's Florida being ahead of the game. Although it is not much of a race.

But the "houses" in Tornado Alley? Sticks and cardboard all around.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Materials like stone in some of the US (I'm specifically thinking places with very little airflow like in parts of the deep swampy south) would be deadly without constant, properly-running mechanical ventilation, for one. In a power outage in the south, people would die without it as stone buildings spend all day getting heat and radiating it back out. That type of house suits some cold climates fine, but is very bad in 35 degrees with 80% humidity. Likewise, in high-humidity environments, mold becomes a real issue without that mechanical ventilation (opening windows does nothing when outside is that humid and particularly when there is no wind).

In earthquake zones, you WANT flexibility; stone and brick are deadly as mortar joints fail and the structure collapses.

I think you underestimate how strong properly-built wooden-construction homes can be. There are also materials and cost issues to building with other things. Finally, as I started with, home construction should be appropriate to the climate in which the house is built with consideration for the local materials and safety.

Here in Japan, we have wood and steel-reinforced concrete. Rarely, you'll find reinforced block, but I think that was a fad that passed. Anything brick-and-motor now has all kinds of steel bracing added for earthquake protection. The house I'm in is not far from Fukushima and survived the 2011-03-11 earthquake and tsunami with only a minor thing to be fixed (and some cosmetic damage to wallpaper). It's made of wood.

Edit: fixed an "a lot of the US" that was left from a previous wording and further clarified what I had in mind. A lot of the US was indeed wrong and not what I meant to post.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

That's BS. In the Mediterranean we are used to be at nearly 40°C and 90% and houses are made of bricks and concrete. Even the cheaper ones. And no need for mechanical ventilation if the house is built the right way.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

"the right way" is like "a basement", right? Because that seems to be something too many American houses lack.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago

Double wall with insulation in the middle.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 2 points 18 hours ago

Depends on the area of the US. In the south, the water table is high enough that it's usually not worth all the trouble trying to keep it dry. Same for most of Japan here.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 22 hours ago

Bricks breathe. Not sure about concrete.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 5 points 23 hours ago

As an example, I once lived in a brick house in the southwest. A true brick house, built in the 1930's so EVERY wall was 3 or 4 courses of brick - 18".

The west-facing wall would bake all afternoon and then radiate that heat all night long. During the summer months that wall never cooled off, it was always warm (80°+).

Winter it was nice, but summer it was a bitch cooling that place at all.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

Does wood still catch fire? I'm fine if I never have another house fire.

Thus, concrete and steel for me.