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[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 34 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This sounds like hopium. Until Putin starts saying something, assume all that will happen is for everyone quoted to suddenly find a high window.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 4 hours ago

I'm pretty sure there's no real recovery from this cluster. They've killed off so much of their workforce that it'll take forever to catch back up.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 22 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Not because Ukraine has turned the tide?

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago

Not on the frontlines it would appear. The strategy of punishing Russia economically seems to be more effective than defeating them militarily.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 49 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

They might be surprised to learn that Ukraine has to agree to end the war before it'll actually end.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

russia cant have that, otherwise putin would look weak, he probably wants the territory he holds to ceded to russia.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 16 points 17 hours ago

As someone other megalomaniac learned in Iran recently: It takes two to TACO

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 17 hours ago

For a long time, they could have stopped the war any time they wanted by just retreating their troops.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If they give all land including Crimea back and pay sufficient reparations, Ukraine might agree.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

returning all the children they FILTRATED into russia.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure Ukraine will be reasonable once they leave. Some sanctions though may not be so easy to lift, may be tied to reparations or giving up war criminals.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

the thing is trump lifted some oil sanctions from russia recently.

[–] gressen@lemmy.zip 54 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

To save the economy they first need to agree to reparations.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

and giving back CRIMEA. and they mostly sacrificed russians from the poorer regions and not from Moscow, ro st petersberg, plus the 1million+ brain drain that went on immediately at the start of the war. i don't think they will recover anytime soon. he is keeping his troll farms well employed though, thats probably his top priority.

[–] gressen@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

And return of kidnapped children. The troll farms need to go as well.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The Special Military Operation was a success! The economy put up a good fight but after 4 years and more lives and materiel than the Great Patriotic War, the ruble has finally been defeated. Putin finally defeated Russia!

[–] Laser@feddit.org 8 points 19 hours ago

Interesting enough, the ruble is actually quite strong, which does create problems for Russia's exports, while they are capped on imports by the sanctions so they can't really make use of that

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 29 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh how benevolent of the Russians. /s

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

"The Russian economy is going to collapse and then the Ukrainians will win" is a line that's been printed since the war started.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's been going on for four years and you are still in deep trouble if you dare calling it a war and not a "special military operation." I don't think Russia will be ready to agree to any peace until it's utterly defeated.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 17 points 19 hours ago

Or until Putin is deposed.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Well at least they also ended a lot of their own bloodlines.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

That would assume they sent out their productive citizens to the front. The Russian army is now composed of 60+ years old alcoholics and prisoners. This is intentional.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

putin is avoiding sending the people from st petersberg and moscow, his base of political power. and likely with increasing adoption of EV is likely making him extremely nervous.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Everything you and GP just said are all simultaneously true.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

A Billion over the course of the next 3-4 generations.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldnt that temporarily fuck the economy even more? Of course at one point you have to stop it before it becomes even worse.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

"Peace is good for business."

— Rule of Acquisition #35

[–] aGenitalBreeze@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Let em suffer