this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2026
138 points (97.9% liked)

Today I Learned

29954 readers
220 users here now

What did you learn today? Share it with us!

We learn something new every day. This is a community dedicated to informing each other and helping to spread knowledge.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must begin with TIL. Linking to a source of info is optional, but highly recommended as it helps to spark discussion.

** Posts must be about an actual fact that you have learned, but it doesn't matter if you learned it today. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.**



Rule 2- Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Posts and comments which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding non-TIL posts.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-TIL posts using the [META] tag on your post title.



Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.

If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.

For further explanation, clarification and feedback about this rule, you may follow this link.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.

Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.



Partnered Communities

You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.

Community Moderation

For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
top 41 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m haven’t read the article yet but I’m betting it was a woman and not a man.

Edit: Yep. She got pregnant and he fired her.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 23 hours ago

Apparently he has fired several men as well

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Rave Ramsey" makes him sound too cool

[–] mbp@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago

Rave Ramsey says go to Coachella with unpaid credit card balances.

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 14 points 1 day ago

I would expect someone called Rave Ramsey to be pan, chill and certainly not concerned with Christian Fundamentalist morality.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is that even remotely legal?

[–] platypode@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

At will employment means either the employee or the employer can terminate the employment at any time for any reason, provided it isn’t discriminatory or retaliatory, so unless you can argue premarital sex havers are a protected demographic, it’s completely legal.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're incorrect. The key isn't the sex part, it's the premarital part. It's called familial status discrimination. If you would fire an unmarried employee for a behavior, but not fire a married employee, it's marriage and familial status discrimination, which is illegal. You can't fire someone for being married, and you cannot fire them for not being married.

So you demand every staff member be celibate, that would be perfectly fine. But when you let married employees have sex, but you punish unmarried employees, then you are engaging in unlawful discrimination based on marriage and familial status.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You just fire any employee for having sex with someone they aren’t married to. Then you’d get premarital sex and adulterers, if Christians still cared about that.

/s

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Pretty sure you can argue freedom of religion

[–] phailhaus@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If your religion requires premarital sex, you can argue that. Freedom of religion and freedom from religion are not the same thing.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 4 points 18 hours ago

Ironically, there’s nothing in the Bible that explicitly calls out premarital sex as forbidden for Christians. It mentions “sexual immorality” and adultery, but doesn’t specify what it considers “immoral”. Even in the OT, if a man seduced an unmarried woman he either had to marry her or pay her bride-price. Also, Mary was engaged to someone else when God knocked her up.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yet freedom of religion laws also enshrine protections from religion for those who are atheist or or otherwise religiously disinclined. And I have yet to hear of a secularly written law that prohibits premarital sex.

[–] 956@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago

You don't need a law. The US has codified protected classes through quite a bit of different areas like housing, employment, and education; they are race, religion, sex (and factors such as pregnancy, sexual orientation, and gender identity (but who knows with this one), national origin, age (if over 40), and disability/genetic condition. If it isn't one of those things, then selecting employees based on other traits is not discrimination in the legal sense. You can absolutely bring suit against the employer, but you are the one fighting the uphill battle arguing why unwed non-virgin should be a protected class. It's also an incredibly hard thing to pursue, because the employee must prove that is why they were fired and that alone, while the employer can just say "that and they didn't fit values/they were late/I don't like their voice". Employees don't often win.

The employee who was fired while pregnant may well have some case, because they basically admit it's due to the pregnancy, but who knows where it lands in court because the pregnancy is used as proof of other supposed rule violations.

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is true, which is hilarious because it proves it's all just make believe bullshit. You can manufacture a religion and its tenets out of thin air and the courts are obliged to take it seriously and when they don't want to (ie: Church of Satan) it's fascinating to watch them try and call your bullshit bullshit without implying that their bullshit is also bullshit.

Anyhow, with the current makeup of the government, Ramsay can do what he wants. Why anybody would work for him is beyond my ability to understand. I think she gets what she deserves for accepting a job with a morality clause like this in it anyway, I've no sympathy at all. Likely another "Christian" who happily takes everybody else's rights away but when they want to have sex, well then they should get an exception. Get ~~fucked~~ bent.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, but not with the current courts

[–] radix@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

But it protects the company's freedom of religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burwell_v._Hobby_Lobby_Stores%2C_Inc

Private employers in this country (including Ramsey) have more rights than workers.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Then the current courts are illegitimate.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

Have been forever

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Pregnancy is a protected class though, it's going to be an uphill battle to say it's premarital sex, when the evidence of that is the pregnancy.

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We must argue that it's discriminatory against sex havers

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

It shouldn't be...

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Everything in the US is legal provided you're wealthy enough, or "Christian" enough.

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is so fucking stupid because doesn't he tell people all the time on his call show that its fine for them to "shack up" and not be married? Different advice for the public audience to people he knows in real life. How odd.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He also tells people they "have to" tithe when they're debating cutting it to make their budget feasible.

[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

What a prat

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I guess he wanted a piece but couldn't get it before someone else did so he got salty.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

This is what they mean when they use the term "virtue signaling".

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

A Wall Street guy is a piece of shit? No way! Say it isn’t so.

[–] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does he know? Can he prove it?

[–] TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

He was there the whole time

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Ruh roh raggy

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Also check the title

Damnit. I thought you’ll teach me something new today! It was just a typo???

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -2 points 23 hours ago

Dave Ramsey is an asshole person, but he is one of the few people out there giving pretty good advice to people who really need it. Not so much the finical part (that's generally mediocre), but the emotional part that drives a lot of these decisions. He's one of the few voices that's out their telling people with hundreds of thousands in debt with 2+ kids making $80k that they don't have to take care of their 60+ year old parents that never saved and feel like they should be able to retire. He tells people that experience massive trauma and loss that it's ok to take time to process and pause major financial decisions while they process that grief.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

Dude admitted to being an Evangelical Christian, so that's part of the reason.

It's extremely messed up that Dave would do that, though.

Rave Ramsy suing for defamation....

/s