reupload because i mixed up sigterm and sigkill like a dumb fuck
Xkill is my favorite. I prefer aiming the gun and pulling the trigger myself
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This but deleting a folder:
- Are you sure you want to delete this
- Delete too large to fit in garbage bin, so are you really sure
- Couldn't delete stuff (for no clear reason)
- Even as admin file locks were hard blocking without any easy way to unblock
Meanwhile on Linux with sudo rm -rf, it's just gone as demanded.
Partially true. The difference is that in Linux, when you delete a file, you're just removing the directory entry (potentially just one of many entries that point to the same data). The filesystem doesn't actually remove the data and reclaim space until all open handles are closed and no remaining directory entries point to the data.
Any running processes that have the file open are able to continue to read and write that data via the handle despite the directory entry being removed, until the handle is closed.
I think a file delete just removing an adress and not the actual data is common to all OSes. That's why to safely erase data from a disk it is recommended to fully overwrite the disk with random data, potentially multiple times.
I mean you could probably delete files with powershell then idk.
Everybody gangsta until "A stop job is running for ..."
Keeping it real hell yeah
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The first time I shutdown a Linux computer, I thought I broke something it happened so fast.
Been doing Linux for decades. sudo reboot is still very jarring.
Same. I still feel like I should be parking the heads on my 10mb hard drive. Honestly at this point, I'm too embarased to ask if there is a proper way to send my servers for a reboot, and I cross my fingers I can log back in.
I think that reaction comes from messing with computers too much. When you fuck up in a computer, that sudden shutdown is what you get. Gives me flashbacks.
No
It's not a request, it's a warning. The machine will be without power soon, and it's up to the machine whether it wants to prepare for that or not
also true for boot (not from suspended state), in my experience.
windows: wait, let me display the windows logo for 10 seconds, then show a spinny circle, then show the lock screen, then when you try to enter your password, it loads your user profile for another 5 minutes before it shows your desktop icons
linux: click the power button -> 1.5 seconds later i see the lock screen. enter password and it's just there.
I've found it to be very dependent on the distro and the hardware it's running on. Back when I was playing around with distros I definitely tried some that felt like you snapped your fingers and had a desktop. But I settled on Fedora and that takes longer to boot for me than Windows. Not that I mind, 30 seconds once a week or so just isn't important to me.
I had a systemd bug delay shutdown for 2 mins every time for a very long time on Debian. Never managed to fix it, Fedora did not have the same issue fortunately.
I fought one of those on NixOS for 2 months but on boot two whole minutes.
I had been poking at it for ages in my spare time, because i can only stand so many reboot tests, and once you were up, it was fine.
On day work issued us Claude code licenses. Maximum effort, maximum model, claude, my startup -> login it taking forever please go find out what's going on.
3 reboots later and some very deep seeded issue with a version conflict in PAM that was pissing wayland/kde off in a way that there wasn't really any error waiting for a timeout.
Uninterruptible sleep entered the chat
Reboot
Windows: save all your woooork. What apps you had open? How would I know?
Linux: it's all saved in ram, don't worry. It'll be like you never rebooted
Reverse meme when it's time to install the updates.
Windows in that case is "I MUST REBOOT IMMEDIATELY PREPARE TO LOSE ALL UNSAVED DATA IN 3. 2. 1..."
When I switched to win 10, I actually gave them more money to get the pro version for access to the group policy editor so I could control updates and never have to deal with my PC telling me it's time to restart on its own. Because I was stupid.
When it came time to switch to Win 11, I did the much more sensible thing and installed Fedora instead. I started with cinnamon and even though I ended up disliking it also, it was still way better than the windows experience.
Not quite. I will RESUME FROM THIS FUCKING "MODERN SLEEP" shit, even though you the user want to turn this shit right off, do it without any warning watsoever, close all your fucking windows and good luck if you have lost work or not.
Meanwile MorphOS booting up and shutting down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIgybl6LfqU
The jingle at the start is the Mac's own. The shutdown is so fast, you'll miss it if you blink. No services, no demons or whatever.
(That was 2013. I'd argue it starts up even faster now.)
Yes I wonder if we have moved forward in 13 years
A stop job is running for User Manager for UID 1000 (12s / 2 mins)
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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop]
"AutoEndTasks"="1"
Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
"YOU CAN'T SHUT DOWN YET, STEAM STILL RUNNING" -Win10, literally every time.
The fuck?
I've had it yell at me because it couldn't close some dialog window that explorer opened because I was trying to shut it down
The number of times I've told my work laptop to shut down on Friday, and found it still running on Monday is too damn high. And it's usually because I had two instances of VSCode running, and when they got closed they both tried to run an update, and the setup processes interfered with each other. The resulting dialog window prevents shutdown.
Every workday using Windows is just further validation for running Linux on my own hardware.
I had to update a Windows 11 work laptop after not touching it for nearly a year. I click 'shut down' from the start menu and nothing happens. What? Try it again. Nothing again.
I have to hold down the power button before the screen shows a "slide to shut down" screen now. How did Microslop fuck up the 'shut down' so badly.
I love how the design is so bad now we're missing the days when shutting down the computer required the "Start" button.
also yes i know shutdown typically uses sigterm and waits nicely, but it doesn't take 45 seconds for no damn reason like windows
also sigkill is funnier
taskkill is pretty funny too
Windows: the shutdown mechanism cannot execute correctly because this process is still running:
ShutDownProcess
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Don't be a pussy and sigkill process number 1.
Had the pleasure of installing some HPE proprietary crap on RHEL the other day.
After the cli installer ran it printed: rebooting now.
It then killed PID 1 to force the reboot ...
We were flabbergasted. Why would the first and only method of asking the system to reboot be to shoot the system in the head?
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Just hold on to your butt and cut the main power.
But then don't forget to switch back to main power before the auxiliary power runs out of fuel or things will get really bad.
Unless it's the movie and they cut out the whole auxiliary power and just set it up such that all power goes out and no one thought of being at the power station to get the main generator back up and running asap before cutting the park's power.
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