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If you came here to say it's all part of the plan. Then what is the plan from begining to end??

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A soldier is an active and usually willing participant in homicidal violence. If they’re killed, that’s merely the chance they took. A soldier either kills or is killed, so it isn’t a shock.

A politician is usually expected to be non-violent, and political violence is a way to intimidate the electorate so it is more personal to people.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

If that's the case, then what about cops? Cops use the threat of violence to put people in rooms and take their currency vouchers. If a cop is killed, any sensible society would go "well that's just the risk you take by threatening violence all day long"

Nobody was that upset when Han Solo shot Greedo, and Greedo was doing a cop's job.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 4 days ago

Probably a case of mistakenly believing everywhere is like America

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Its a double standard perpetuated by institutional corruption and a powerful police union.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It is generally part of the job description. A soldier in a war has a high probability in dying. A soldier's death is a typical cost to war. A politician, in contrast, doesn't have death as a potential risk to their profession. If anything, the death of a politician is generally a sign of the state being actively harmed.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A soldier in a war has a high probability in dying

Just a friendly FYI for something that really doesn't matter, outside of Russia's galactic fail, these days this is largely untrue. I only knew a handful of dudes that died in OIF, it was nothing compared to the Iraqi local nationals. If you were running the genocide, the probability was less than 1/1000. We all wore shrapnel home though, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The quote comes from the Joker in The Dark Knight Rises, which would have been said during GWOT. The odds of death were lower during those wars/occupations than previous, but the odds were still higher than the civilian population.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Lol, good point!

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The more you know about a person the more of a reaction you're going to have when they die. Stronger feelings will come from the loss of family or friends, than a random person across the globe.

Celebrities and public officials are somewhere in the middle of that spectrum, we know more about them than we do a complete stranger so we develop opinions and feelings about them even though we never met them in real life.

I guarantee the families of those dead soldiers cared more about their troops than they would a politician.

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can you not include me? Thanks.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Sorry, we voted in secrecy. You have been included. You may appeal this decision to the district courts. You will lose. You can petition the supreme court for certiorari but Clarence Thomas will just put one of his pubes on your Pepsi and then blame you for it.

[–] Patnou@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Um was anyone talking about you?

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

They took your use of "everyone" personally, I think

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Sorry, I was talking about them

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 4 days ago

Ones a statistic and the other weirds power that can change the flow of a country. Especially if you kill a peace loving senator with a cultist pos.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

People loose their minds when a senator or mayor is assassinated? Most of time, people just shrug.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They should really tighten them

[–] tourist@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

yeah loose minds can get lost if you drive over too many speed bumps

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Plan might be the wrong word.
Intended Norm might be a better term.

[–] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 0 points 4 days ago

When it comes to people we don't have direct ties with.

It is true that elected officials represent people, they were chosen to do so. Losing your representation is actually kind of a big deal, and it should be a big deal.

A soldiers job is to avoid death while it's on their heels. It's heroic, it's hard, it's a complicated profession with a lot of moral dilemmas. You're only on the good side if you win.

We're constantly bombarded by the propaganda that we're on the good side. And weeping over its defenders in the military is a great public way of communicating that you also believe this is the good side.