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    [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 1 points 6 minutes ago

    I learnt a lesson yeah. It looks like I got away, there's no rootkit, I found nothing weird running, I don't have npm Installed, and up until now it doesn't seem like the packages I had installed were compromised. But I had way more AUR packages installed than I was aware of. And I was just updating them without really caring about the pkgbuild, I have better things to do. Multiple packages were outdated crap that shouldn't have been there anymore.

    I was careless and took too much risk. I reduced the Installed AUR packages to a minimum, and from now on I will verify the PKGBUILDs on every update. Maybe Arch isn't really what I need. I'm on the LTS kernel and I no longer really use the AUR. But switching will be a huge hassle and this setup will work well from here on out, so I'll stick to it for now

    ClamAV users, how's it going?

    [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 2 points 47 minutes ago (2 children)

    So what are good antivirus options for Linux? is it still pretty much just ClamAV?

    [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 2 points 42 minutes ago

    one thread I found from 2 years ago where someone asked for the same thing, a lot of the replies are just "you don't need antivirus on Linux" lmao

    [–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 26 minutes ago

    Our company uses eset https://www.eset.com/us/home/antivirus/

    But afaik it costs money to really work.

    But your brain should be the best antivirus you have.

    [–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

    I am at "no fucking yays and the bunch, check the package create/update dates, read PKGBUILD, only update when necessary". Has served me well so far

    [–] HisAssholiness@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

    Arch users just randomly dropping "I use Arch btw" everywhere, it was only a matter of time.

    [–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    And you believe that makes you safe?

    Shit like this is a blemish on the Linux community.

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    [–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

    I was on arch as a vestige from my school days, having never quite found the time to switch to something more stable. When I saw the news over the weekend, I checked and found 1 would-be-infected package on my machine that was thankfully months out of date. I'm well past the point of wanting to examine PKGBUILDs every time (hence the out of date package). But, instead of just removing AUR packages and sticking to arch repos, I decided to sweep up the technical debt by wiping and installing Fedora. I'm liking it so far, minus the absolute pain in the ass that is Nvidia on Linux. Fuck academics and their insistence on writing everything targeting CUDA; otherwise, I'd have saved a good bit of money a few years ago with a much more compatible AMD card.

    [–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 hours ago

    Have you looked into drop-in (ZLUDA) or recompile (SCALE, chipStar) things? Though they may not have been helpful with the years gone by (and may each have their own pros/cons).

    I'm still using a 1050Ti (and legacy driver shifting to AUR did block me from updating), value doesn't seem great and not going to buy something used from eBay. So that still complicates things for me.

    Distro-wise I probably want something slower than Arch but not sure about point releases. And I am hoping for something that does updates in a way more friendly to slower internet (giving less update friction), but I suspect it doesn't exist. Some things (OpenSUSE, NixOS) seem like they might be closer to I want but I have hangups about them (Patterns on SUSE and lack of videos for Slowroll, NixOS having multiple solutions for dynamically linked executables especially if I decide to stop using Steam directly).

    [–] Auth@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago

    Isnt it just a single line command to get nvidia working?

    [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 42 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    The more popular Linux becomes, the less true this will be.

    [–] nsh@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 hours ago

    Avoid success at all costs - Simon Peyton Jones

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

    Use the AUR, have an antivirus, no infected packages. However I was thinking of switching to https://chimera-linux.org/ before the infected packages went out.

    [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 6 hours ago

    Custom OS that no one else has access to. It might be full of exploits and bugs, but only you would know that. πŸ˜‰

    [–] Speiser0@feddit.org 3 points 7 hours ago

    My eyes, I look at AUR packages before building them, as any real arch user does. AFAIK, antivirus programs would do the same to compiled binaries, looking for suspicious things and blocking if it finds something.

    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    Security through insecurity

    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago

    Though, Linux being open source helps a lot

    [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 15 points 12 hours ago

    Also, an ad blocker.

    [–] pleb_maximus@piefed.zip 5 points 10 hours ago

    Hi there πŸ‘‹

    Don't have installed much from the AUR though.

    [–] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    Never trust an NPM library

    [–] redsand@infosec.pub 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] HeHoXa@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

    ... technical name for glory hole

    OR

    Your mom's a fuck node

    [–] rozodru@piefed.world 8 points 12 hours ago

    bu-but so many libraries need funding!

    [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 75 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

    Linux Users: haha those silly windows users, always searching the web for their software and getting viruses.
    Linux Users: oh no I got malware by searching the AUR!

    [–] riot@fedia.io 7 points 11 hours ago

    AUR naur! for all my Australians out there.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

    The AUR is still safer. One, it is at least minimally moderated. If a malicious package is detected, it can be reported and removed. Two, the installer is usually not just a black box executable. Three, most of the build and runtime dependencies are from the official Arch repos, which provides some protection against supply chain attacks. For Windows installers, you have to trust the distributor to bundle clean DLLs (for that matter, the same applies to AppImages).

    But if it starts downloading anything from NPM... ^C and run.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 18 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    The most unsafe factor of the AUR is aur helpers and their goal to dumb everything down and streamline the process as if the AUR where an official repo

    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    I'm not entirely sure I agree, I think the issue is with default settings.

    Like you could use both yay and paru to diff the PKGBUILD of the most recent updat and then read it, and then approve each. And I think that's pretty helpful. But you could also just blindly accept the update with the right config or flag and that is not a good practice.

    [–] bitfucker@programming.dev 1 points 38 minutes ago

    Yeah, use and promote aurto instead. They require you to trust the maintainer and would remove the package from the local repo if the maintainer is changed

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    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 34 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    Don’t worry, I found a package on npm to help!

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    [–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (6 children)

    I don't use Arch, BTW. So the biggest NPM threat vector on my machine is still VSCode.

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    [–] yesman@lemmy.world 45 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    Microslop is nervous now that Linux is popular enough to attack.

    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 34 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

    Linux has always been the bigger target. Even microslop uses linux for its severs.

    [–] four@lemmy.zip 21 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    I'm gonna assume that their servers are not installing stuff from AUR though

    [–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 12 hours ago

    I would hope so too

    [–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 45 points 16 hours ago

    btw, I use malware

    [–] altphoto@lemmy.today 11 points 12 hours ago

    With the old package managers safety was simple...trust the developers, user their packages. 10000 downloads? Easy! 1 download.... πŸ€” Maybe skip for now.

    Now with executables like mac and Windows it's easier to sneak something in. You still rely on trust. But now you've got AI in the game mudding the waters.

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

    The unsandboxed package model was only ever safe in its original conception - with organizationally trusted and cryptographically enforced maintainer model. Remove the maintainer/developer trust requirement and you need a sandbox in order to prevent malware having root access on your system. Tis why mobile apps were sandboxed on Android and iOS from the get go.

    [–] istdaslol@feddit.org 39 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

    Inverted security by obscurity

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    [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 29 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (15 children)

    I avoid orphaned packages and I wait a few days before I type yay

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