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[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 12 points 16 hours ago
[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure right now we could just pack up and leave. We're just too stupid to do that.

[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

It seems like the USA really wants to GTFO. Trump even admits we'll run out of oil in 4 weeks. It's the bloodthirsty Israelis that won't leave. The Israeli government and its people (NOT just the government) genuinely want the world to end.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago

Trump really doesn't want to GTFO when he's called a loser. He needs people to believe he won somehow.

[–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The Israeli government and its people (NOT just the government) genuinely want the world to end.

Not really, they "just" want to remove the Iranian regime or at least cripple it to the point where it's no longer a threat. They don't care what happens to the world's oil supply. Either way, I really hope the US pushes through with the peace deal. It'll be better for the world as a whole and might even teach those warmongers a lesson.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

All we'd have to do is pack up and go. Take ALL of our weapons out. Without the USA backing, the Israeli government looses quite a bit of bite. Neither of those things will happen.

There is a large spectrum of wants observable from the citizens of Israel.

Several large groups of citizens from the USA also want to see the world end and fund settlements they think will help point the heavens in that direction. Silly humans

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

In a sort of way, it's like 1914, except Israel is the incompetent Austro-Hungarian Empire trying to get into a war with Serbia and the US is Imperial Germany just getting strung along as the muscle

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Defense contractors don't want to stop selling to Israel. US military doesn't want to lose their big military base there. But yeah Israel doesn't want a peace deal so it violates them immediately everytime

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

We have to find the WMDs in Iran tho.

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 16 points 1 day ago

I mean, I knew something stupid like this was going to happen. Spaghetti for brains started a stupid war for stupid reasons, had literally no plan, no end goal, and then Iran did the smart thing cutting off the oil supply for months until the dipshit decided he had enough and was willing to crawl on his hands and knees for a deal. Of course the deal was going to be shit for america, dons a dumbass, a terrible negotiator, and had no leverage.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LOL. This meme assumes the us hasn't lost a war before.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We rediscover this every time, we are an easily distracted people

[–] BoosBeau@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Hang on, we can talk about this later. More importantly - if you're NOT Rick, then who is?

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...when you lose a war you started.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Happened the last time that Nazis started a war.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

The "we're god's chosen people" aspect of fascism paired with underestimating every opponent is what always leads to fascists getting mired in stupid, pointless wars.

[–] Kwiila@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

USA hasn't won a war longer than 2 months since ww2. They've gotten used to it.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

We don't actually have to pay $300b. That seems to be Trump's original idea.

Is he getting a kickback?