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Why not both? Lots of places set the climate control to insanely low values, which is uncomfortable, promotes respiratory diseases und wastes energy.

Too cold is always better than too hot. Period.

Get a hot tea. Put on a sweater. Put on a fucking blanket, I don't care. You can fix being cold. You're just whining.

I can't strip down to my underwear and dunk myself into a cool water bath at work. It's frowned upon.

The people having to work outside hearing both sides complain:

._.

I got annoyed the other day at work. I work in the offices of a factory. It's 35 Celsius and a lot of hard working people are working next to large ovens and suffering from high heat. A couple of people on the office Teams channel started with comments like "given the temperature we will be organising some cold drinks and ice creams for the office staff"

I would like to see those people try and spend a day on the production lines in this heat.

I forgot how much I hated working in an office. Our desks were directly under the vent, so we'd get blasted with cold air. Sales was off in a corner, where it was too warm for them. No amount of adjusting the thermostat would change their local temperature, but they'd try anyway.

In addition to being climate criminals who should all be stripped of their nice things, people who mandate in-office are often causing personal, physical, suffering.

I don't complaint about the AC in the office, I just shiver quietly under a blanket.

Seems like a no-brainer. You can put on any amount of clothing if the office is too cold, but there's only so much you can take off if it's too hot. Even on casual Friday - found that out the hard way.

nothing compares to working in 112°F under a blazing sun with 75% humidity, zero cloud cover and zero wind.

did I mention you're doing this for 10-12 hours a day while performing complex geometry and handling tools that can cut off your fingers, arms, or legs?

all while the boss is driving site to site in a blast freezer on wheels bitching about why it takes too god damn long to put up some walls or sheet the walls/roof.

sometimes I miss it, most the time I want to forget it.

It also depends on individual people. I’m freezing below 76F 24C, my best friend starts sweating if it gets above 68F 20C. His house is set at 66F 19C, and if I go over, I know I have to bring a jacket, and if he comes over to my house he brings a sweat rag.

Why is it difficult to get it? It’s inconvenient for them. Do you think people need to consult everyone else in the world and make sure that their own personal problem is the worst ever experienced by any human, before being allowed to feel uncomfortable?

Me in my 93°F warehouse in the summer, which is also my 22°warehouse in the winter, for 12 hours a day

It makes my throat sore for days and my coworkers set the AC at 16ºC (60 F) working continuously when it's 21ºC (70 F) outside and raining just because it's Summer.

We use less energy for cooling in the summer than for heating in the winter, and it gets worse because the latter is generally less efficient because that does NOT usually use heat pumps, considering heat pumps are more efficient than just heating with electricity directly (it moves more heat energy than you put in electric energy).

So once you have heat pumps capable of heating installed and ready, to make winter heating more efficient, then it's trivial to flip some valves to let them cool, so what dumbass would then refuse to use them in the summer when it uses less energy?

If you're still concerned about the energy use, then install heat capture tech - because both the energy spent and the energy moved becomes heat on the hot side of the pump, you can just extract that heat and store it in for example water for later use, and now the fraction of energy spent on top what you were already going to use is much smaller still.

And that's assuming you weren't already powering it with solar.

Big pet peeve of mine. If you think it's chilly you can put on some clothes, if I run hot and think it's hot HR frowns upon me removing my clothes.

I've been in both — kind of, sort of. At least if it's too cold, you can bundle up (despite how stupid that is). But when one of your coworkers doesn't want it on, and you're then cooking to death... yeah, that's not fun. Same with idiots in public transit who don't let you crack the window open to let air in, because "it's cold/blowing at my head!!". Bitch, go sit somewhere else then or take a taxi.

Big office HVAC is painful to work out. Stack Effect makes temps harder to hit in certain floors. Some suites will put more people in a room than there is cooling capacity, exterior window/shell heating and floor to ceiling windows turns certain walls into giant radiators. If you let people set their own temps, they end up starving other parts of the loop.