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Excuse me, we're a number 2 at everything. What's this 24th?

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

imo, it's often last in citizens who believe ranked statistics.

[–] tenebrisnox@feddit.uk 7 points 8 hours ago

Wanting decent healthcare, education, life expectancy and a free press is "communism" according to Trump. But he is all in favour of giving pardons to some very unpleasant people - so I guess they're happier!

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

We're also #1 in per capita health care spending, and it's #1 by a lot -- literally twice as much as any other country. This goes fantastically well with that "worst in the developed world in healthcare outcomes" bit.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 22 points 11 hours ago

Yeah. I don't understand how anyone in the poor or working class can be a patriot. This country will let you die in the street if you can't pay a bill some rich asshole demands of you.

I hate this stupid holiday.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

The Great US Empire is exactly that. It is #1 in projecting power and using gunboat diplomacy. And since WW2, that was all it needed.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

and none of that will change with the current administration or any offshoot thereof

[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thank god MAGA can’t read

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Kids cant read anymore either. We pay our teachers less than babysitter pay rates, cut school funding and put cops in schools who run away and cower in the parking lots at the first sign of trouble.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean no where else does gun deaths quite as silly. I mean where else is there a non zero number of people a year get shot due to storing loaded firearms in an oven?

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

How else are you supposed to dry them?

I assuming... wait... Are they storing them?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Doom@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Remember during the pandemic when people were accidentally killing their sour dough starters because they accidentally left them to warm in the oven and another member of the household decided to make pizza. It happened A LOT.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago

People being stupid with an oven, an every place sort of stupid and mostly not harmful (other then the odd sour dough/house fire).

People being stupid with an armed oven, only in america.

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

I remember when republicans used dictatorshios to defend their ideology

[–] CelestialBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 5 hours ago

But communist gulags though.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

More guns than people. Checkmate, libs

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 80 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Don't forget military spending, we're definitely #1 in that.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I see this talking point all the time and I have no idea why anyone would think it matters at all.

Country A has a population of 200 million people and each one has X tax dollars going to the military. Country B, which is directly threatened by Country A, only has a 20 million people and each spends 2X dollars on the military. That means Country B's spending per capita is twice that of Country A's, but Country A's military spending is five times that of Country B. Obviously, Country A is more deserving of criticism for building up a five times larger military with no legitimate threat, while Country B's spending is more reasonable, and might even need to be higher, despite the fact that it's already twice as high per capita. Per capita is almost entirely irrelevant in the discussion.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 23 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think we’re spending more on debt than that right now. Just read how that’s a major marker of a nation in decline, historically, spending more on debt than military updates.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

The British Empire wracked up a ton of war debts and tried to levy taxes on its colonies and that kicked off the Revolutionary War. France spent so much money assisting the colonists to own the Brits that they wound up with their own debt crisis which is what kicked off the French Revolution.

Debt is a big problem but generally the way countries acquire debt is getting involved in a bunch of military entanglements. The US dumped a truly absurd amount of money into the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and nobody really acknowledges that aspect of them. We are well and truly spent, massively overextended, and we desperately need to stay out of military entanglements. We simply don't have the capacity for them. There's tons of domestic crises which have just been festering while to government goes galavanting around the world looking for glory and plunder.

There are two paths forward for the US: one where we make massive military cuts, refocus on addressing domestic problems and addressing the material conditions that have given rise to the far-right, and we start trying to play nice and win countries over through diplomacy and investment the way China does, gracefully managing the decline of the empire and leaving the door open to revitalization and possibly even becoming a positive influence on the world. The second is that we keep pouring more and more money into ensuring we have the most lethal military in the world, we continue trying to dominate the Middle East and elsewhere through military force, we ignore rising costs of living and other domestic problems, we keep becoming more and more of a global pariah, and as extremism gets worse and worse we won't have anything going for us but the military and as our only tool we'll apply it to more and more situations, losing more and more ground until we probably wind up nuking the world rather than accepting that we're no longer "number one."

It is virtually certain that we will follow the second path and avoiding that is really the only worthwhile political goal there is.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Whichever is the dumbest choice we will proudly choose that one, no matter which party holds the presidency.

[–] moustachio@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The second option would likely lead to domestic collapse and revolution before “nuking the world.”

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 hours ago

Domestic collapse and nuking the world are not mutually exclusive.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 20 points 17 hours ago
  • Military expenditure
  • Electing a pedo
  • Starting pointless wars and never remembering the folly
  • Car / truck safety regulations
  • Environment
  • Welfare
  • Taxes
  • many many more........
[–] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 24 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Gotta be up there for propaganda. Americans appear to hate the idea of taxing billionaires, socialised healthcare, etc

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

Oh for sure, just off of sheer spending in Hollywood, corporate media, social network algorithms, and marketing, America is by far the most propagandized country on Earth.

[–] VicVinegar@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

Hey! We're not all that stupid. Just most of us.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

Where's police abuse?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why do they say the Western world - is North Korea more unequal?

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Everything western citizens know about NK is US propaganda

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 3 points 6 hours ago

Tonight on VICE

"I and my camera crew arrived in Mexico, we're being told the border to America is protected around the clock by armed machineguns, and trained attack dogs 24/7. They're known to imprison journalists and torture dissenters, and I've signed up to live here for a week... we may not make it out alive."

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Except, you know... independent journalists interviewing North Korean deserters.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

See, they want you to think it shares a border with South Korea.

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Even the satellite photos?

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Someone does make a decision on which photos may be revealed to the public.

With cherrypicking, it'd not be hard to make some propaganda based on real photos that makes US look like a third world country as well.

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 37 points 21 hours ago

Don’t forget “believing in angels!”

[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 20 hours ago

sums up that shithole pretty good :)

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I figure fuck it, while I'm at it why not just shoot my buddy, take his job, give it to his sworn enemy, hike up gas prices, bomb a village, club a baby seal, hit the hash pipe and join the National Guard? I could be elected President.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 19 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

How do I vote for this guy?

[–] stumpelrilzchen@feddit.org 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

No need to. His buddies in office are already gerrymandering the fuck out of his district. The rest is up to Russian and Chinese social media bots getting enough brainwashed deplorables to vote against their own interest. Just lean back and enjoy the ride. We've automated the whole process for ~~our own benefit~~ your convenience.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Click on in the little arrow that's pointing upward

[–] GheeButtersnaps@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

How bout dem apples.

[–] cappa@feddit.org 12 points 20 hours ago

Oh I think vacation days should be added as well