The modern day police have consistently and nationally shown the cowardly petty asshole persona that is drawn to the position - reform may not be able to correct this. A new organization may have to emerge from the ashes as the current one becomes a story one tells their children to frame unbecoming behavior and folly so they may avoid becoming a poor behaving human - we will see how this all turns out....
THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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RULES
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② If you're here to support the police, you're trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent.
③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They're about killing people; we're not.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
Let me start a fire: the fact that most Americans can't be bothered to get out and support the few who are trying to make a stand makes them no different - cowardly petty assholes who yap on the internet yet implicitly allow it to keep getting worse and worse.
That kid has bigger balls than most of America, fight me.
That's almost right on - that little girl has more power poise and honor than the combined whole of the group of masked neo-nazi shills that marched to washington, and the armored masked badge and gun-toting fucks that defended those shills 'rights' to 'protest' - that's why they assaulted that child @ a protest There will be a reckoning - the ones on the wrong side, are wrong - win or lose
America, fuck yeah! /s
Pepper sprayin' them kids in their motherfuckin' faces
"How was your day, honey?"
...f-fine!
"Anything happen at work?"
no... <_<
This any of you guys' last straw?
Well, alright then, see you back here tomorrow.
Armchair revolutionaries are totally not useless pieces of shit.
What would you do? Genuinely curious
Seems you responded to the wrong comment, since I've no idea what you're asking. I'm mocking an idiot for pretending to be a badass on the Internet.
"Non-Americans should just get on a plane and come fight for us!"
Who's the armchair revolutionary?
Yes that was absolutely said /s
You actually believe that expression means "no, you"? Hard to believe you're that dense. I could be wrong though.
With enough heat and pressure, these shits can be diamonds. A little global warming and some food insecurity might do.
With enough shutting-the-fuck-up, armchair revolutionaries can once more pass as bearable human beings. A little this-guy-pretends-to-have-empathy and this-guy-isn't-actively-being-an-idiot might do.
Start voting with bricks instead of paper, the French know what's up.
There's a reason I'm on TOR, btw. Kill47.
I go to rallies and food drives almost every other weekend. Please do half of what I do, then get back to me.
I'm sure you are violently attacking the United States government and are very much not full of shit.
how much does the NSA pay you?
I doubt the NSA would pay anyone to talk shit to an audience as small as Lemmy.
I generally don't think people here at intentional or conscious mouthpieces of opinions they don't share. It's more likely that they disagree or misunderstood something, know something you don't, don't know something you do know, have a different perspective or whatever. We're all better served attacking the statements than the people making them.
This is a delusional question. Delusional like your claim that "CHRISTIANS ARE PROSECUTED IN THE SOUTH", whatever that means.
in the global south and ad hominem?
I don't know why you're bothering me. Can you not?
when faced with a logical argument
Okay dipshit tell us what you're fucking talking about instead of pretending you have. If there's any fucking thing you could say you probably would have by now. But what do you do instead? Mumble an incomplete thought that seems to make no sense. I happen to know for a fact that Africa is heavily Christian and any isolated incidents of Christian persecution (not prosecution you fucking moron) are barely worth mentioning. So either shut the fucking hell up or make a fucking point. You've said nothing and pretended everyone else is an idiot for not reading the non existent point from your dull mind. Why do people like you even talk? You make the world a worse place. You defend the agressors and then bitch when people call you the fucking moron that you are for it.
Africa is not a country
most of asia is anti-christian
Hey fucktard, are no one said Africa is a country, but you your stupid pathetic troll ass knows that. Okay so far, in dozens of messages, you have managed to type information equivalent to two thirds of a sentence. Congratulations. If I had 1000x more patience we might someday get to a paragraph.
Btw "most of Asia" isn't a country. But in all lowercase because I'm too stupid to type. /s
Blocking your stupid troll ass now...
I get that it's heinous that they sprayed a little girl, but I've always been of the belief that kids are no different that anyone else when it comes to this type of thing.
I'm not defending ICE at all by the way.
I'm just saying that a lot of people place emphasis on the wrong thing. A lot of people will place emphasis on it being a little girl, rather than on the fact that ICE is pepper spraying ANYONE who isn't a threat.
I AM saying it's reprehensible that this girl got sprayed. Not because she's young, or a girl, but because she was of no threat to these guys.
If you're 6, 16, 36, 86, any age. Any gender. Any background. If you're not posing an actual threat to anyone, peaceful protesting should not be met with pepper spray or mace, or whatever.
But what else do you expect from these wastes of human skin? They try to act like a big hard threat, but they have to hide their faces because they're all soft scardy cats.
When this is their response to peaceful protests,they force violent protests to become the next step. And there's an infinate more amount of us than there are of them.
I don't think most normal people would disagree that it's reprehensible to tear gas nonviolent protestors, regardless of age.
I think the reason you see things like this is not because people are thinking "how DARE they gas that young girl!? I think we should only gas 18+ people instead 😠", but they're making the point of "these people are willing to stoop so low, that not only will they teargas innocent people, but they will even do it to a child."
They're not saying it doesn't matter when it's done to adults, they're saying that it being done to children shows how low they are willing to stoop, past even the point of gassing adults with no ability or intent to harm them.
Kids are different. They cannot possibly be a threat (with rare exceptions) so the cops can't twist the narrative
Imagine if someone said "guys, pedophiles shouldn't be raping ANYONE!"
Does that illustrate for you how weird this comment is?
This cannot possibly stand. WTF!!!! The repus gotta come out and stay the fuck out.