Christians don't get persecuted for being Christians.
They get persecuted for acting like insufferable assholes. Don't do that and there won't be a problem.
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It's a known phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_persecution_complex
Though seems to me that persecution narrative must be pushed top-down by a minority, if 96% of the actual people vote "No".
It’s seems like a psy-op by the wealthy.
not... well. maybe it is. but not directly.
The messaging is there to keep people from leaving.
they'll be told things like "that person was rude to you becuase you're a Christian!" or "you lost your job because you were a Christian!" or any of a dozen things that have nothing to do with. (sometimes, in point of fact, they push you to do things that will make people angry at you. like knocking on their door at seven AM on a fucking Sunday. this is, for example, the point of the Mormon's mission... or JW's.)
along with all this, they'll get you to burn bridges with your support systems; and to annoy everyone around you.
The whole goal is to keep you from leaving, even though they're incredibly toxic.
Literally everything organized religion does is a psy-op to manipulate people 😅
I think it's an interesting discussion to be had, whether it's done by "the wealthy". We have account that Jesus was kinda against the rich. I mean he flipped some tables and everything. And young Christianity also had something going on with the camel and the needle's hole. And we have more paragraphs than just John and Timothy... But boy did they turn that upside down with what we have as of today. Especially in the USA. I think "they" accomplished their goal. Interesting, though, how the establishment (in modern times) often comes with some urge to claim victimhood. And I don't think it's traditionally part of totalitarianism.
so... Jesus wasn't actually against the rich nearly as much as people make him seem these days.
The flipping of the tables wasn't that they were doing business or even taking advantage of people. it was that they were doing business inside the temple.
as for all the "go sell your shit and follow me" stuff... well. yeah. Imagine, if you will Jesus with a cheesy sleazey-car-salesman grin and his hand out. Also notice that he really had a thing for hanging out with rich people.
none of the disciples were particularly poor. Mathew was a tax collector. James and John were both heirs to a successful fishing business, two of the others were senior employees in that business. he dined with and partied with the rich all the time, too. Joseph himself would have been well off (as a tekton, he wasn't exactly poor. He was the guy that built everyone's homes and such.) (though Mary probably fled from Joseph when he found out she was preggers. details)
basically, he acted and sounded like every half-baked cult leader you can imagine.
Jesus was mad at those using the temple for commerce but also said they were robbing people. “Den of robbers” It wasn’t just the location.
he was angry they were charging a bit extra for a bit of extra service. the money changers were presumably vetted by the Temple so they weren't outright cheating their customers. the whole reason the temple required the tributes to be in silver shekels (or half shekels) from Tyre was that Tyre was known to not debase their currency; and the money changers would easily vetted to avoid the ones clipping or outright forging coins.
As for the livestock merchants, keep in mind there were (are?) stringent requirements for sacrifices that made bringing animals from outside the city difficult to do. These were not the goats being raised to be put into a stewpot. Even just raising them for sacrifice was expensive. Bringing them into the city was another expense. Keeping them in the city, too.
It's very easy to imagine that Jesus was just being like "I can buy goats back home for (whatever a generic goat was worth)! These are ripoffs" and then going full-karen, while being too stupid to understand all that.
It sounds like you think Jesus was wrong.
Yes.
And I'm guessing if we were talking about anybody else who did similar, you would too.
First off, lets address the whole "people couldn't worship because it was too expensive thing", the law Jesus supported and said was eternal in Mat 5:17-20 makes it pretty clear if you cannot afford the prescribed sacrifice, you can give a lesser one in it's stead (so like doves or even grain,) If you can't even afford a grain offering, you don't actually need to do that.
So there's already a remedy in place for the destitute, and it's pretty simple. (Side note, does that suggest Jesus and his followers overrode that? yeah. that's a dick move.)
The other thing is that it was absolutely about location. Because evicting the merchants and money changers would not solve the prices it was effectively a captured market. there was a lot of demand for those services and animals. the merchants and money changers had the supply.
So if you make them go , they're still gonna be dicks charging whatever they're charging. and it'll be less convenient, too, and chances are extremely high that your piligrims and worshipers, the people you seem to think Jesus was protecting- would be getting conned and scammed. Which just makes things worse for everyone.
Further more, Jesus didn't just flip tables. He violently assaulted the merchants in a toddler rage. And yes. I would consider that to be wrong, immoral, and perfectly in line with the character of the real Jesus. The Jesus who wasn't divinely born, who wasn't the son of god, and who was running around the nether-regions of the ass-end of the empire conning rubes and yokels out of their stuff.
Oh, the poor exploitive business owners. Why doesn’t anyone think of the poor exploitive businesses?
yeah.
That's not actually what I'm saying.
you're defending a charlatan asshat who thought violence was the proper answer when there was already established a non-violent answer. (If you can't afford the animal, you can just skip that part.)
congratulations. You're defending a violent con artist. who criticized pharisees for not stoning unruly children and faked miracles to steal from people who were already struggling. Jesus is not a hero. Jesus isn't even a decent person.
Their scripture literally tells them that they would be persecuted.
And they were... for the first four hundred years...
Not so much anymore, though. Unfortunately they don't view the bible as a historic document, but as the infallible and timeless word of god...
Yes. Was 380 when Christianity became state religion in the Roman Empire. I believe that was also when they had all these councils to codify what's in the New Testament etc. I remember some notable exceptions from history class, like the Nazis. Some shenanigans between the Catholics and the Protestants, the French Revolution, Communism... But other than that, they've mostly been at the giving end during the 1646 years after that.
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Oh boy, I imagine that one has an interesting "talk page" lol
A religion that has a building dedicated to it on every street corner does not get to claim they are persecuted.
Yeah, one of the things that made me doubt my religious upbringing was the preacher repeatedly saying that Christians are a persecuted minority to a Sunday crowd of some 3000 people, in a church people nicknamed "Fort God" for its massive size, in a town where "on every street corner" really isn't much of an exaggeration. In hindsight, it was laughably ridiculous.
Also, the literal military-worship on Sundays near Memorial Day and Veterans Day was a bit jarring even to the young, good-little-Christian me.
Oh? I was not aware of this. Clearly they weren't either.
lemme guess....
25 persons voted, including the moron that created this 'poll'.
(24/25 is exactly 96 percent)
Lizardman's constant (the percent of people who will give a stupid answer in a survey, for fun) is also 4%.
Ain't nonya bein' persecuted.
People who are kind, considerate, and compassionate towards others do get persecuted.
People who don't tip at Cracker Barrel on a Sunday after church probably should be persecuted.
Leviticus 3:25
Thou shal tip at Cracker Barrel or thou shalt be stoned outside the city walls and also the Cook will spit in thy food
That should tell you who is winning.
Slow the Decay
They're so persecuted, they're afraid of answering yes on this poll! Incontrovertible evidence of Christian persecution!
The Christians that feel prosecuted are those who bang on your door in order to convert you and get reported for being intrusive and breaking some laws.
They're the ones who claim persecution when they get in trouble for illegal discrimination or hostile work environments
You know what persecution is? Having to pay taxes.
Churches should pay taxes and stop persecuting the rest of us. Churches are everywhere, not paying property taxes and many other benefits that NO other non-profits/charities receive; we all have to pay for their share.
the yes people are likely far right christians, which arnt really true christians.
true christians
True Christians are just like their god -- they don't exist.
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