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Ukraine struck Russia's largest oil refinery, located in the city of Omsk, on Monday, marking what its forces say was its furthest-ever drone attack in the war.

The Omsk facility, which processes about 21 million tons of oil a year, is in Western Siberia and about 1,700 miles from Ukrainian territory — roughly the distance between Los Angeles and Houston.

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Personally, I say California should be controlled by Australia.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago

I replied to the wrong post somehow, this was supposed to be under the post of Trump saying Iceland should be under US control.

It probably makes a bit more sense there (I also don't think California should be under Australia's control, it was just snark)

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I wonder if Ukraine got the idea from Iran?

I don’t mean that as an accusation, but… well, Iran basically has the world economy’s throat. And I know Ukraine’s drones just got the capability, but Iran had to be a fantastic reminder of how fragile an oil economy is.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They've been occasionally attacking oil infrastructure since the beginning of the war. Used to be their "allies" asked them to please tone that down a bit. I guess Ukrainians finally stopped giving a shit.

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

They saw how quickly nations fell to their knees when you disrupted the flow of oil.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 91 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

And the greatest and second largest army of the world, didn't even notice a few foreign drones traveling 1700 miles across their land! I wonder who's gonna fall out of a window for this.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 69 points 19 hours ago

Ukraine has been systematically destroying all air defense and radars. What remains is now around Moscow and Putin's home. Even if detected, stopping the drones without defense is hard.

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 34 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

We need some research into how effective drone strikes against refineries are to stop climate change. Are they a net gain in carbon emissions, considering the cost of manufacture and the prevented emissions?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Well, the oil is going to get burned eventually, so it's a question of "burn the refinery now" or "continuously burn oil from ongoing production now and in the future".

What is good or bad? If everyone in the U.S. and Russia died tomorrow, the world would be better off right? But how many "innocents died". Innocent is just bias. So if you want prevented emissions, kills every human. Or... Maybe that's evil?

[–] goferking0 16 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Gotta make it worse.

There's the emissions from while it's on fire plus some of the chemicals in it are worse after being burned like that then in regular emissions. Or become other environmental issues on their own once released/burned.

Then the emissions from building a new one.

It's so much better to just shut it down because no one needs it than blow them up

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[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 25 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

You need to cut demand. If the price goes up, refineries are just build elsewhere.

[–] Nautalax@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There can be demand destruction from high prices

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 18 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

This. See how the hormuz crisis has caused many to pivot to renewables.

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