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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 14 hours ago

Time for the four stage strategy:

Stage 1: Nothing's going to happen.

Stage 2: Something may be going to happen but we should do nothing about it.

Stage 3: Maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.

Stage 4: Maybe there was something we could've done, but it's too late now.

I reckon we're about at stage 3 on this one. Still, at least us Europeans won't have to put up with any more heatwaves.

[–] zifk@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 day ago (6 children)

"In a study that has yet to undergo peer review..." tells you all you need to be concerned about for right now. AMOC is a very complex phenomenon and not easy at all to model. All conclusions should be properly vetted before becoming actual news.

[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

I prefer to be concerned only after I notice the water is boiling.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

There have been dozens of studies indicating issues with AMOC, but because the latest one has yet to be peer reviewed we should do nothing and ignore all the warning signs

IDK, maybe just this once we act early. What's the worst that happens, we reduce pollution a bit? We invest too much into scientific research?

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah... this is 2026! You can just say things now! Go back to the 90's with your scientific integrity, party pooper.

[–] hneerqe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I'm sure gizmodo has it covered

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The AMOC has been in a lot of trouble for years now. Ironically, it was the cleaning up of shipping cargo oil that may have put the final nail. We stopped using a fuel that emitted SO2 into the atmosphere, but that SO2 actually ended up as a sort of shielding from the full effects of the greenhouse effect happening elsewhere over the Atlantic. Without it, temperatures this year and last year absolutely soared

[–] zifk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Oh definitely, there's a lot of troubling outcomes and I'm glad the research is being done. I just think news reporting on unreviewed results is good for nothing other than fear mongering. And it's not like that has been effective for other consequences of climate change. Giving people more reasons to 'give up' won't help solve problems.

[–] abc@suppo.fi 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

But it's amazing for clickwhoring. A lot of value.

[–] NeilNuggetstrong@lemmy.world -3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In my groundbreaking (yet to be peer reviewed) research, Ive found evidence of the Moon being 98% Gouda cheese. The remaining 2% is actually avocado toast

[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 2 points 14 hours ago

We need to blow up the moon so millenials can afford rent.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been saying it's imminent for a while now, because I've been seeing studies about this come out for years and it seems like every one revises the estimate to be earlier.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The scientists probably thought we would heed their warnings and reduce our rate of emissions. Those poor fools.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Either that or they were subconsciously erring on the side of not seeming alarmist.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

It's simply that their worst case scenario didn't account for the speed of the cascading effect of a couple particular spots.

[–] MJF@thelemmy.club 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey! I've seen this movie!

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Two Days Before The Day After Tomorrow!

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AKA Yesterday

(All my troubles seemed so far away...)

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

pst .. it's actually today.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's today but yesterday's tomorrow, Mr. Squidward?

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 3 points 23 hours ago

What if there is no tomorrow, there wasn't one today?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Oh, right, apparently I can't count to 2...

That makes more sense, because the troubles are right there.

[–] SillyDude@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who's ready for AMOC collapse and >5°C el niños?! Its gonna be a wild ride!

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Are we going to end up with North American monsoon season or the Great North American Desert? Or maybe both at the same time! I'm so excited for all the novelty the climate future holds.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Reducing emissions as swiftly as possible will be essential to prevent AMOC collapse and other catastrophic impacts of climate change.

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https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/06/europe/russia-fuel-crisis-ukraine-drone-attacks-intl-vis

Almost every Russian region hit by fuel crisis, as Ukraine escalates drone attacks

https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/07/middleeast/hormuz-tanker-iran-attack-intl-hnk

Iran strikes three vessels near Strait of Hormuz as Trump arrives at NATO summit

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's ironic that our tendency for senseless violence may be the only thing that saves us from our tendency for ruinous unchecked greed and gluttony.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago

I have never read such an apt and absolutely brutal comment on humans. I tip my imaginary hat to you!

If everyone turned violent against the ruling billionaire epstein class it would certainly fix a LOT of problems.

[–] tankfox@bookwyr.me 6 points 1 day ago

Are you Hubert J. Farnsworth? Because you speak in his voice!

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

How hilarious would it be if humanity averted the very worst effects of climate change purely through dumb, hateful war? I'm very well aware we're fucked as we're likely headed towards the SSP3 to SSP7 projections, but maybe all these wars will escalate to the point that we avoid SSP7+

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think it's already too late. It's already showing the same signs of collapse as the latest simulations, and in real life it's showing these signs an order of magnitude faster than in the simulations (decades instead of centuries).

[–] hneerqe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

hold your farts. think of those poor private jets and private yachts!

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago

why stop at Russian oil refineries?

oh no! Capitalism!

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

AMOC is extremely important because it spreads nutrients north and mixes cool water in the south, and its collapse will lead to extreme droughts in some areas, floods in others, extreme cold in others, and extreme heat in others, which will lead to agriculture collapse and food security issues, leading to more wars and migration, leading to even more wars, etc.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago