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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 86 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I’ve only seen one episode, the San Junipero one. I can’t wait to watch the rest. I do love some cozy, optimistic sci-fi.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oh honey.

That's only that episode. That episode is an outlier

The rest of the show is pessimistic dystopia at best.

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are a few that are not.

spoiler

  • Hang the DJ
  • Striking Vipers
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh I hadn't seen those, good to know!

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 7 points 1 week ago

But you are right, those are definitely outliers. If an episode seems like it is a feel good romp, there is usually some dark existential twist just around the corner.

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[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

I do love some cozy, optimistic sci-fi.

Well, as others have said, Black Mirror is definitely not cozy/optimistic. In my opinion, it's easy to miss the final point of San Junipero. You have to have watched the episode White Christmas. If you've seen that episode, you know what cookies are and you know that there is an implication in the last seconds of San Junipero that, in my opinion, is pretty dark.

Still the best fucking episode though.

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

What is so dark? I feel like I must be missing something. Their consciousnesses are being maintained by a server farm. But what is dark about that? It just seems optimistic and such how they get to pretend to live in their 20s forever. Nothing like living in a torturous snow globe or whatever.

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[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cozy and optimistic is an interesting way to describe that show...

(Edit: I looked up which episode that was, and now your comment makes more sense. Its been a while since I watched black mirror and I kind of forgot any of them had happy endings.)

[–] adj16@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

How do none of the replies notice your obvious joke?

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

That's one of the best episodes by far. Honestly, stop while you're ahead.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 week ago
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like the added level of hilarity in the meme of specifically using Peppa Pig while talking about watching the first episode of Black Mirror. 😂

There needs to be more mention of this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piggate

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IMO the best first episode of any series ever.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Honestly, the second episode "Fifteen Million Merits" was the most soul crushing thing I had ever watched, the first episode paled in comparison. Then again, I'm not a pig so clearly Peppa would be a little more traumatized.

[–] mika_mika@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I smoked my first blunt before turning on Fifteen Million Merits, my first episode of Black Mirror. Everyone online told me to watch it before Ep. 1.

My emotion was heightened by 10 fold from THC.

I hate this show so much I have watched every episode multiple times.

True joy does not exist to me anymore.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can totally see that. The episode "White Bear" from the second season was one I should not have watched in such a state. I was quite shaken afterwards, that one might be worse than "Fifteen Million Merits".

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I did "shut up and dance" and it scared the shit out of me. Like that could be happening right this minute. Im actually kind of surprised such a scenario hasn't turned up in the news.

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 30 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I always found black mirror to be like... very kid's first sci-fi. Like, "what if you were FORCED to watch ads?" "Bro, like... What if Facebook likes mattered! Like a lot!"

The ideas aren't impossible but... from the dystopian episodes I saw, there always seemed to be significant obstacles in getting there from where we are that are never explored or explained away.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think it was writer Daniel M. Lavery who described Black Mirror as, "What if cell phone... but too much!"

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's kind of an accurate way to describe a lot of society these days though, from doomscrolling to phone addiction to social media disinformation to surveillance and tracking and advertising.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

True, but these ideas were not quite in vogue in 2011 when Black Mirror first aired. The internet still felt like a wonder full of endless possibility. There was an app for everything. Personal data was not mined on planetary scales.

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[–] heh@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

To me that’s always been the point of the show.

Take some real world thing and push it to the point of being dystopian.

In the “Facebook likes” one, you can make a connection to social credit systems IRL.

The explanation is applying a “slippery slope” fallacy for pretty much every single concept.

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The explanation of “how we got there” is all around you. Every day.

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

FWIW, showrunner Charlie Brooker says that the starting point for every episode is finding an idea he thinks is funny

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[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

and what a fantastic first dystopian scifi those first seasons were (for me)

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are but since we don't get a lot of true scifi media ( I would describe most as space fantasy ) I'll take what I can get

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[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I feel like we’ve lost the meaning of shitposting

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[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I feel like it fell off HARD after season 1. Stopped asking interesting questions in favor of "wouldn't this scifi bullshit be fucked up?". Like yes Black Mirror, you're so edgy and avant-garde, good for you. I, too, think that trapping your consciousness in a digital torture prison forever is messed up (happens like 10 times). Not really interesting though.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I have a suspicion that Netflix is messing with the episode order for some folks.

My partner and I were on the phone with their mom when she mentioned that she just started watching Black Mirror. I had a silent freakout moment and half-apologized for the early episodes being “pretty gnarly” but she mentioned the first one she saw was a USS Callister or something else.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Its probably because she was episode 1 of a different season not season 1

edit: actually you may be right others are saying similar stuff

[–] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Had it happen with love death and robots too. I think if there's a new season out it starts you on the 1st ep of the newest "complete" season, which is really annoying.

[–] msfroh@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Oh, I remember the controversy about that show! For Love, Death, and Robots season 1, Netflix randomly put people in one of four buckets (probably a hash of your account ID mod 4 or something), and your bucket determined your episode order.

Apparently, they thought it would be a neat way to present an anthology series (since order doesn't matter). Conspiracy theories arose that Netflix had sussed out peoples' sexual orientation and were using that to determine the episode order.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Love,_Death_%26_Robots_episodes

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I love me good series. Heard tons of good reviews about The Black Mirror.

I have only managed to get to episode 3. Couldn't do it after. Way too disturbing. Would 1000% recommend to watch. I just couldn't 😭

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's like Requiem for a Dream. Great movie, would recommend it to anyone except my elderly mother, am not gonna fuckin ever watch it a second time.

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[–] Codpiece@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I much preferred it before Netflix got hold of it. It’s not bad now, just different.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It used to be dark scifi, now it's horror.

[–] pandora@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I always recommend to skip this particular episode. It just is really disgusting and does not convey any meaning whatsoever. It absolutely fails to be an example for the rest of the series. If you haven't seen it, just skip it. If you did see it and stopped watching the show because of it, please watch another episode. They are all good in their own way, except for this first one. I have no idea how anyone could have thought, it would be a good idea to open the show with this particular episode ...

It's called "The National Anthem", btw. Just skip it, seriously.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The author said in an interview that it was a filter to get the public he wants for the series. No idea if that's post-facto rationalization, though.

Anyway, Netflix changed their entire system so that they could order that one show differently. It's the last episode there.

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[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Doesn't convey any meaning whatsoever??

what did you watch it?

[–] restingOface@quokk.au 5 points 1 week ago

It's clearly "what could happen when someone abuses technology", just like the rest of the series.

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[–] djdarren@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

David Cameron enters the chat

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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