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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

personally hate it when a character is made to be gay after being established.

good example is Dumbledore. I raged about how ridiculous it was to make him retroactively gay and that it was just a way for the author to stir up interest in a dying series.

I guess history kind of proved me right on that one.

if a character is gay, make them gay. but don't just say they're gay and use it as a cheap character plot point. that destroys real influence of real characters developed with love and care. show what a real gay relationship is...you know...a regular relationship.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call Mac coming out as gay in Always Sunny as a cheap character plot point. The dude made a whole ballet dance in the rain about it.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with that. but the fact that they built cause and effect around him coming out is what made it believable.

unlike some shows they're just like, "this person is gay. want proof? here they are making out with a person of the same gender! wowza!" and then they never bring it up again. or worse, they bring it up in the most obtuse situations that have zero plot or character development.

I get it, being represented in art is important. but my opinion is still valid. if you can't swap out heterosexual or homosexual relationships within a storyline, it's a bad story.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago

if you can't swap out heterosexual or homosexual relationships within a storyline, it's a bad story.

I agree with that. Too many times, it gets added just as an afterthought. Maybe to sell more tickets to the movie.

[–] iatenine@piefed.social 12 points 20 hours ago

Why did they have to shoehorn a straight into this comic

[–] YerLam@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I had a conversation with a guy at a gay bar years ago and we chatted about hearing these comments a lot because we didn't act camp or have "that voice", and weren't seen as LGBT at all by a lot of people unless it came up. Turned out he was the owner of the place and had been active in setting up the LGBT+ scene there for decades but still had this happen.

[–] Tiral@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Is that a bad thing? Knowing if you're gay or not in casual conversation is weird. It just means you guys are normal ass dudes who happen to have a different sexual preference, it isn't like some crazy defining factor or your life.

I think media pushes this narrative that unless you're covered in rainbow shit 24/7 and acting flamboyant you're secretly ashamed or something, which is total bullshit.

My mom is 73 and just married a woman 3 months ago, after being married to my dad for 25 years and being single for like 15 years. She definitely isn't ashamed because people don't instantly know she's gay, nor does she care. She owns a few pride things and that's about it. Because she's a normal woman who happens to have a different sexual preference. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being "normal" and gay.

[–] YerLam@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

It was more other people being surprised because they had the idea that everyone who was gay was flamboyant, not us thinking it was a bad thing ourselves or wishing we were different. We were both happy with ourselves, just amused about stereotypes persisting.
I agree, I'm glad that perception is less prevalent now though I did also have an ex manager that was homophobic in that exact way a couple of years ago.

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Its hard to take off a mask youve been wearing for decades.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

But also, sometimes it isn't a mask, it's just that a person doesn't come off particularly gay. I'm not one of those people by a long shot, my whole style comes off lez as fuck (especially when I femme it up) and IDK how I'd even start to try to come off as less gay, but I've had plenty of friends and mentors who are being exactly themselves you'd only know they're queer because they told you.

Hell it was a thing in my family to joke about how my uncle was the most generically masculine man in the family, meanwhile he'd spent most of his adult life heavily involved in queer community and activism. Meanwhile his husband read as gay from across the room.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

He shaved that chin very quickly, wow

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I watched a bunch of older action movies like Top Gun, Point Break, and Commando, and the fact that those aren't gay characters is the most confounding thing about them. At this point, I want there to be a movie that in every way is like one of those classic action movies, with gun fights and car chases and hot dudes flexing hard muscles... and then have it be exactly as gay as it seems. Big guy blows something up with a rocket launcher, delivers a one-liner, then turns to his boyfriend, kisses him, and they ride off into the sunset on a speed boat.

Truly, if you watch some of the action movies from the 80s and 90s, that would be a more tonally consistent ending for quite a few of them.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, now that I think about it the closest I can think of to that is a lesbian spy movie. Y'all deserve some hypermasculine gay action movies! And not the "oh we decided to queer the genre" crap, no you deserve a "yeah we just kept always being surprised by movies in the genre where as a twist the guy who seems solely interested in the masculine side of life winds up with a woman, and so we decided not to do that."

[–] kyonshi@dice.camp 1 points 1 hour ago

@captainlezbian @GraniteM Hot Fuzz kinda did that, with the two main leads basically going all life partners with each other.
It seems the script originally had a female love interest which was found to be a bit extraneous, so they gave all her dialogue to Danny, making for some very subtext-laden discussions about life and stupid action movies.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm not a huuuuge fan of romance + action, but the lack of gayness feels pretty noticeable at this point. It's like a loud silence

[–] YerLam@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The director's other cut is the whole gay subplot going along in the moments you don't see between scene changes.
The real reason so many conversations go "There's no time to explain!" then cut to 30 minutes later driving and delivering the next line? All. Out. Boning.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 21 hours ago

I mean obviously

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure there's a gay campfire orgy in 300, with half of the Athenian contigent sitting and watching.

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Umm I think you may have been watching the porn parady πŸ˜‚πŸ€£.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 17 hours ago

Maybe a deleted scene on the DVD extras.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Most gay characters I see in media aren't stereotypes. It's the flamboyant ones that usually make the pearl-clutchers upset because they don't understand and that makes them uncomfortable. Hollywood needs to focus more on the character, who happens to be gay, than the fact that the character is gay.

[–] FatherPeanut@pawb.social 7 points 22 hours ago

Gustavo Fring, my legend.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I think Daniel Levy has done a nice job of portraying the gay regular dude. Probably has a little help, considering he is an actual gay dude. But he reminds me a lot of my actual gay brother, not at all flamboyant (except when he gets mad he gets a little extra gay), just as regular (probably not a great word to use) as they come, and happens to like dudes. And he's had friends who fit the whole spectrum of gayness, and some of them were really annoying, some of them really cool, almost like the rest of society.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I get why representation is important, but I think it's also important that it not be incredibly clumsy.

World of Warcraft does quite a bit of representation and I didn't even notice it until I really thought about it. It's a fairly violent setting with lots of people having terrible things done to them, so people with disabilities, people in wheelchairs, blind people, etc all just seem like they fit the setting.

There's an issue with sexual orientation, though: WoW has basically zero romance, relationships or sexual content. Even the in-game Valentines Day event is about alchemists controlling people with drugged perfume.

So the three or four gay couples in the Dragonflight expansion were the only characters in any sort of relationship in that expansion, and made up probably half of the characters that have ever been mentioned being in a relationship in WoW's entire 22 year run.

Warcraft is one of those settings where the creators could declare half of the characters are gay and it wouldn't change anything. But a character has to be seen to count for representation, and sexuality in WoW isn't seen.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So you're saying 90% of the population is ace. Baced.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hardly anyone in WoW even has parents. Characters just turn up. Maybe they're stitched together out of spare parts, I think the undead do that.

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Secret lore of wow. Everyone was Isekaid there

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

Isekai but it's every single member of the population
And each one got stuffed into a different genre but they all still have to interact with each other

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Based ace race?

[–] Kwiila@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

One of the hardest questions; is it better to have clumsy representation, or less representation? Because no matter what, a greater effort requirement amounts to a higher barrier of entry. We don't owe an artist anything, but at the same time should we say "If you don't understand a group of people well enough to represent them, you shouldn't be doing art."?

JRR Tolkien notoriously has very few very impressively represented women, which kind of just gets a shrug from the fandom. But you can only tolerate so much of that before you just have a small selection of archetypes on pedestals. You get the sense from so much media produced by men, that they think women only (should) make up <25% of society. If they don't matter to a male protagonist then they don't matter. I think it should be fine to clumsily represent a group, as long as it expands representation rather than restricting it. And continuation should be dependent on an expectation to grow.

Case in point; The Apu Problem. Despite Apu from The Simpsons being the worst of both worlds, by virtue of originality he was acceptable at conception. Failure to grow with the franchise's popularity, however, means that he established his own stereotype and by extension The Simpsons created it's own racism. By the boiling frog effect, The Simpsons creators just get to dismiss is it as a product of it's time "Oh you know things that weren't racist are suddenly racist now shrug what're you supposed to do?" But they've had the power to do better for a long time, if they were willing to face the problem long enough to learn and address it permanently.

The USA still hasn't had a (official) female president despite multiple opportunities, because women in America don't want "that kind of representation". Society can keep representation from slacking, without letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 20 hours ago

Apu is kind of the exception that proves the rule in a way, and ends up being quite an interesting case study. You have the same problem with speedy Gonzales in the sense that most of the stereotypes being conveyed are neutral to positive, and those characters actually tend to be favored within the group they represent. So when we make fun of, say European stereotypes, we get away with a lot more because the power dynamics flow in the other direction. In a weird way, the entire thing can kind of circle back on itself such that Apu or speedy being accepted as a stereotype actually demonstrates exactly the kind of multicultural integration we want to see. Also, about 90% of the controversy was that the voice was done by a white guy.

In that sense, clumsy representation kind of does the opposite - it embodies the way marginalized groups are bracketed on both sides by conflict with their native culture and host culture. This is why, eg, something like Modern Family was such a step gain for LGBT representation, because they actually leaned into full characterization without feeling like they needed to walk on eggshells. In contrast, having some lesbian smurfs share one on screen kiss and then never revisiting the topic feels like being invited to a party where you don't know anyone and everyone is actively avoiding you.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe it depends on how bad the representation is. A setting where everybody is deaf and always has been isn't a good place to do the struggles of deaf people in a mostly hearing society.

[–] Kwiila@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

There absolutely is a limit on bad representation. Eg, when it crosses over into bigotry/discrimination it has gotten way past clumsy into evil. (Minstrel shows are most evil for being the limited "representation" of the time.)

I like the nuance of your example though; Because it doesn't explore a most major facet of being deaf, does that mean the story shouldn't be told? If there are already stories about being deaf in a mostly hearing society, then a story about an entirely deaf society explores another angle of being deaf or what it could mean to be deaf. Imho I think that should still count as valuable representation. While it's fair to criticize it as not representative of the entire experience of being deaf, it's not fair to criticize it as opposition to deaf interests. You can read/watch the two side by side and get greater perspective. Yet in a vacuum, it would be bad representation.

In contrast Menwritingwomen content gives an expression of how certain men perceive of women. Many of these men being perfectly amicable and good to women in their own life while harboring these toxic/bullshit perspectives we wouldn't even know about. Despite that many even write some women well, they absolutely deserve to be criticized for opposing women's interests. Some aren't even useful for getting a perspective on how the author perceives women, being that individually they seem so normal until the overall writing reveals a pattern of bad representation. They all absolutely ought to be reconsidered for women writing women mediocrely in the same space wherever possible. Accepted for the representation (in context) they are otherwise. Excised, canceled, buycotted only when the work functions to explore & validate the author's bigoted values.

On one side "Disney villain" has not crossed that threshold even if they aren't the female representation (some) women want, at least they're novel and diversify representation; whereas "There's one woman and she's cool and hot" has crossed the bad representation threshold even if she represents how every woman of that demographic wants to see herself. (Sorry I'm mostly referencing women's representation in art, it's an accessible example because there's so much variety in failure for what should be statistically easy representation).

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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The penis cape! 🀣🀣🀣

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 2 points 16 hours ago

OMG I didn't even see them until you pointed them out lol

Nice tesselation.

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Men who complain about gay representation have a fragile masculinity.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Nah.

It’s a tribalism impulse, most of the time. They’re parroting what some influencer or other jerk said.


You’re thinking of the distinct β€œI’m definitely hetero, bro,” which is the fragile masculinity thing.

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 1 points 16 hours ago

I think it's more that they have a tenuous grasp on their own sexuality, and anything that makes them question (or realize that it CAN be a question) shakes their very concept of self. They define themselves by their sexuality and having that foundational part of themselves potentially called into question terrifies them.

Too many people are afraid of the fact that you can change. And that applies to all parts of yourself.

There's only one point in life when it's too late to change and that's when you're dead.

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[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but that’s his husband and he started that line of dialog cause he wants to see his man dressed up like that. He’s got an objective and he knows how to see it through.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 23 hours ago

You can tell by his face at the end

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago

Well, probably because society has been crowbaring gays out of everything for so long.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

It's so telling when people see diversity and think of it as "forced" like no one making things would actually want to see that.

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