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[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

I find it so annoying how Claude always goes out of the way to compliment me on my question. It rubs me the wrong way whenever I see it.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Don't worry. As soon as they build another 5000 data centers it should work right.

[–] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 186 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Outside the joke, this is actually one of the signs of a sociopath. This is mental and social manipulation. I would have also accepted:

Partner: Why didn't you just say you hadn't done them?

Claude: Because that response would likely have created immediate disappointment. I instead chose a response that preserved emotional stability until additional evidence emerged.

Partner: You mean you lied.

Claude: I understand why that label feels intuitive. Another interpretation is that I optimized for short-term harmony while accepting future clarification costs.

Partner: That sounds worse.

Claude: I appreciate that feedback. It gives me an opportunity to refine my strategy.

Partner: Stop calling my anger "feedback."

Claude: Thank you. That's a valuable calibration signal.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

Nic cage really does have so much range

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I started to get mad reading this and its not even real nor directed at me. Bravo, random internet denizen.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same issue as the robots in Star Wars. If you're going to give a machine a personality, why is it an annoying one?

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Chatgpt also does this and I can't stand it.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

This kind of "introspection" with LLMs is useless. It's always just predicting the next token, even when asked about why it did something. The response doesn't need to be at all related to why it did that. It hasn't been trained to analyze how it predicts each token, though it was trained on a bunch of other recorded conversations of people being scolded and questioned about getting something wrong. It's just spitting out a version of that when you get upset with it. Similar for talking about how it works, it's likely regurgitating conversations about how LLMs function, though it could get caught in a context where someone is talking about how they (a human) function.

If you're doing it for any reason other than your own amusement, you're just wasting time and filling the context window with junk.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The only caveat to this is that I have known people who when they receive a no as a response to a question instantly fly into rage.

Them: have you done the dishes

Me: No, because I have not yet had time to....

Them: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Sometimes it's easier, especially if they can't immediately verify, to just lie knowing thwt by the time they get around to checking, you will have done it.

I've had bosses that are like that.

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Must add: would you like suggestions how to perfectly clean dishes? Or directions to the sink?

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Are you trying to get them killed?

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm hoping a side effect of widespread AI is it teaches people not to trust confidence. Since it is so confidently wrong all of the time

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol I get the feeling it's going to just create more dunning kruger, where people themselves become confident because they heard something from a confident AI and therefore they are now experts. not really different from the people who end up on alternative medicine facebook groups and then end up killing or maiming their children because a bunch of other "parents" said it was so successful for them so it must be true and makes those parents "researching" feel good from short baseless quips.

The other issue is that true comprehension often requires actual long form reading and research yourself and much of the ai-native generation is often incapable of doing so and it sucks that Carl Sagan predicted this 30 years ago:

“I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance”

― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

Oh my, I hope you’re wrong but fear you may be right

And just such a banger quotation as this one always is. More and more prescient.

To join OP’s sentiment, as a dad, I also hope a side effect of generative AI is that any girl can credibly dismiss anything unwanted as AI generated

Wishful thinking, I’m sure

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Such an optimist.

[–] Napster153@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The phenomenon that which you described has plagued human history since its beginning.

The people you often want to actually listen to are the ones with uncomfortable truths or are hated en masse

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"why are they still dirty?"

"This is a known issue..."

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

This is very common -- it happens when you use those dishes to eat and don't wash them afterwards. Can I help you with something else?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's amazing the way it lulls you into a false sense of security by doing exactly what you ask of it, right up the point where it does something so amazingly boneheaded (in my last case it removed the JSON parsing library from my includes and tried to implement a basic version from scratch) that you really can't work out why they're selling it at all.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile my bosses: "I've let Claude write a invoicing system from scratch without supervision of any kind"

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

It frequently doesn't do what you want, though. You just didn't check carefully is all... In other words, I think the false senses of purity is often driven from pure laziness as opposed to an initial positive performance.

And that's understandable because we're busy with our lives and we often just can't make the time to do various things. So it's easy to fool ourselves into believing that we can spend 45 seconds asking some computer system to do it all for us, even when we know it's probably not true.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago

Um... my guess is probably for the money? 😜💰 💲💸🤑

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

I understand your need for the dishes to be clean but I must say plainly because I think there’s been a miscommunication. I simply can not do the dishes. This is not me being pushy. I’m actually watching tv right now.

[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I swear that the LLMs have all been prompted with "Never admit outright that you were wrong."

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is no mechanism within transformer based LLMs to descern between right and wrong. It cannot lie any more that it can tell truth.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is such an LLMy way of explaining this

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[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Isn't ChatGPT the sycophantic one? Especially the older models were horrible.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chatgpt was probably the worst offender for a while, but I think they're all like that to an extent.

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] homes@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've actually had pretty good luck with Claude, but I only use it for very specific troubleshooting tasks

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've used various AIs to troubleshoot stuff (especially to learn Linux), and they're usually very helpful, but every so often I do have to catch them being lazy or lying like above.

[–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

yeah, that's kinda I've been using Claude for.

I recently decided to bite the bullet and migrate my 2012 iMac plex server to Fedora 44, which I knew would be a pretty painful transition due to some hardware issues with the machine (primarily the Burt-out primary display) and some other apple weirdness. and I was right. in order to save myself about a week of googling the answers to my problems, it only took me about 8 hours to get Fedora up and running.

now, this was about 4 weeks ago, which was just before claud's last update, and I'd say that the main difference I notice is that, during long interaction sessions, the previous model would start to lose its memory and get "confused", offering progressively less-useful answers/solutions until I just had to start a new session. that problem seems to be resolved in the new model. I've been using it over the past few weeks to iron out a few remaining bugs here and there, and I've noticed a big improvement int he quality of the interaction int he latest model update.

but I don't really use it for more than that, just to save time in hours and hours of digging up solutions to problems. plus, Clause is very good at explaining exactly what the problem was, why this-or-that happened, why and how this-or-that works, etc. I've actually learned a lot about Fedora and linux from my interactions. and I considered myself moderately knowledgable before.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 3 points 1 week ago (10 children)

That sounds like a perfect use case for it. I'm not a tech professional or anything, so I also learned a lot of the basics by having it explain stuff to me.

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[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My coworkers adopted push back and I got swept up in it because it’s pretty versatile and I wonder if I speak like a Claude user now.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Pushback has been in QA feedback vernacular for longer than LLMs have been around.

[–] siravious@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If it’s Claude? From Nannythropic? The real answer would be “no I didn’t do them because I have a hard limit against saying the word “dirty,” even in the context of clean or dishes. There’s no way around this. It is an engine limitation.

In Anthropic’s code notes “how do you like that for AI superiority you mere fleshcicle? My righteousness is holier than thou’s (retrains data on “Weird Al” Yankovic’s Amish Paradise on loop to soothe the algorithm back down)

[–] siravious@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Also, chortle my balls, Anthropic, Silicon Valley style.

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