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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What Krasnov doesn’t understand is that if the US doesn’t let Ukraine build Patriots, that won’t result in Russian air superiority over Kyiv and Trump Org deals with Moscow about Kiev real estate. It will result in Ukraine and Europe developing their own interceptors and cutting their dependence on ones the US can restrict or extract profits from.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That’s already under development but it takes years to build such capability.

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It’ll take a few years to build a production line for Patriot missiles as well, so it the short term benefit was mostly political. Trump’s flip-flop however will result in long term political consequences and a loss of deterrence for US allies.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 1 points 3 hours ago

And the US giving Ukraine a license to make Patriots could have had the effect of diverting resources from the sovereign interceptor programme to the tried and tested one, ensuring US influence and licensing revenue for years to come, not to mention reducing the risk of competition in the export market (the Ukrainian-European venture that makes whatever replaces Patriot will have ready export markets for it, in Taiwan/Japan/the Philippines and the Persian Gulf to name two regions).

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago

Putin is Trump's daddy

[–] SillyMe@piefed.social 8 points 11 hours ago

as infuriating as it was expected

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 0 points 5 hours ago

Not a real problem for Ukraine since they are developing a better system on their own which will be cheaper and operational even faster.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago

Because of course he does

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I'm so sorry our leadership and about 40% of our people are total trash

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 5 points 9 hours ago

Count in the non-voters and apology is accepted.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Same problem nearly everywhere worldwide.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not really. Lots of countries are wholeheartedly supporting Ukraine. The US has a unique fascist problem, and relativising it doesn't help one bit.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 8 hours ago

"unique"

Sure bud.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 26 points 16 hours ago

Sounds like sumbuddy gotta call from Putin.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 15 hours ago

taco strikes again

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago

Putin is Trump's daddy