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Amazon thought it would be a good idea to not include subtitles in a film made entirely with sign language.
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this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2026
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Hey man let the deaf people have one. No need to make about yourself.
Screw them! Not like they can see what we type anyway!
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As a deaf person, why not ? :)
so you’re against accessibility?
I don't think they are against it. I think this is just a rather dark humour way to say this is my everyday normatively
Nope. That show you my daily life.
I get your point bit if anyone is trying to draw attention to the plights of deaf people, this is not the way how to do it
If I want to see this movie, I'll get very annoyed, turn it off within 5 minutes and I'll chrcl something else. Where is the attention now?
Then how ? You just discovered it. There are plenty movies with subtitles but at least you get the experience of our daily life in 2 minutes and there is a post about it on Lemmy.
That's not the best experience but it worked.
Most of time, we won't understand when you talk. Few people will do the effort to write on a paper. And there is a lack of subtitles, interpreters. We are forced to go through various stressful situations.
So, i love that it show you the other side. I love that you get this experience once in your life because most of time, people don't care. They aren't deaf and ignore it, since it don't concern them. They have no idea how many movies, podcasts, dramas, meetings, appointements, parties, course...are inaccessible to us. They just call, talk and live on.
Yeah it is a shame, but i hope you will be a little more aware and join us. :)
That's either "sign language doesn't work with our speech-to-text algorithm and we'll be throat fucked if we hire an actual person to do a job" or some massively pretentious statement about accessibility in media.
More likely it's a technical goof, somebody not folding the full English (and other language) subtitles into the streaming container.
One masquerading as the other
The worst is when you're watching something with subtitles (in your own language because it's hard to hear sometimes), then someone on screen speaks a different language with the subtitles hardcoded into the video.
Great, right?
Well no, because Amazon's (or Netflix etc, they all do it) subtitles have a big "[Speaks German]" up the entire time, blocking the hard coded subs entirely so you cannot see what they say without temporarily disabling subs. Like bitch, I KNOW THEY ARE SPEAKING GERMAN, MOVE THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY SO I KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING
It's so fucking stupid and infuriating. How have they not addressed this shit?
Sometimes for fun I'll watch it foreign language movie I'll turn on English dubbing and run subtitles as well. It's really hilarious how different the two will be
Oh I hate that. Netflix animes are super bad about it. I wish they'd have the subbed English dub as well instead of a translated sub.
I get a special kind of mad when I watch a foreign film in its original language. Turn on that language's subtitles and the subtitles don't match what's being verbally said because apparently the subs have been translated into English then back into the original language so nothing matches and everything sucks. Or worse when they've translated some idiom for American audiences and have translated that idiom back so what's being said makes zero sense.
Whenever I watch anything in Japanese with my boyfriend, we put on English subtitles for him. Meanwhile, I spend most of the time screaming internally "THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY SAID. THIS IS NOT WHAT ANYONE IS SAYING!?!" instead of actually enjoying the show.
This is an accessibility issue and the FCC takes it pretty seriously. Captions must be accurate, complete, synchronized (or as close to as possible), and (this is the important one in this case) cannot obscure important information on the screen.
It's a pretty easy form, but they do want a lot of details.
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=36040
"cannot obscure important information"
The FCC is American though. Anything in a "foreign language" is clearly not important information to them.
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What pisses me off about subtitles is when they start displaying lyrics to songs playing in the background.
Although I love it when they subtitle the inaudible-but-foreshadowing news anchor in the background.
Snatch is a completely different movie if you can understand Mickey (Bradd Pitt) character.
It also helps if you like daggs
SDH subtitles (subtitles for the deaf & hard of hearing) describe all the relevant sounds in a scene including background song lyrics, there is likely to be another plain subtitle track if you don't want that
English subs typically are never plain unfortunately
Oh if only. I've seen two tracks on occasion on streaming services but it's extremely rare. I think it was on Netflix or Prime and it's been years since I've seen it. As someone who is not hard of hearing but just has a little trouble understanding sometimes it's very useful to have the option that's exclusively dialogue.
I don't mind it as long as they do something like italics and little music notes or either end
I don't mind stuff like that when it's at the top of the screen like a fansub
That's a good idea.
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I mean if you have a better way to make viewers understand what people with hearing impairments go through every day, then I'm all ears.
Phrasing.
Are we not doing phrasing anymore?
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It takes a pretty hardcore film goer to learn a whole language just to watch a movie.
I see this more and more with shit on streaming services where, for some fucking reason, they strip the subtitles out for the non-native language parts even tho they are supposed to be subtitled for the audience. Like for example I wanted to see the new Ghostbusters the other day since it was on HBO which I have, but half-way through I had to stop it and pirate it anyway, because all the scenes with just the bad guys talking was supposed to be subtitled but they took the god damn subs out. They didn't even translate the dialogue in closed captioning even tho the audience is supposed to know what they are saying!
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