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I have a man cold and taking my usual bowl of chicken soup washed down with a Lemsip Max but now I'm thinking... if the main ingrediant of a Lemsip is paracetamol, why don't I just have a paracetamol? It'd cost alot less.

Whats the point of a Lemsip other than the paracetamol?

Thank you.

Now that you've read this, you now have a cold sorry thats just how this one works.

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[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 39 points 1 year ago

Lemsip Max active ingredients

paracetamol, caffeine, phenylephrine hydrochloride

The last one is a decongestant.

But it doesn't work

So take your paracetamol with a cup of coffee and you're quids in.

[-] zzzz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Or, better yet, Tylenol, coffee, and Sudafed (which is a decongestant that does work).

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Make sure the Sudafed actually contains pseudoephedrine.

[-] 8bitguy@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And if you have heart issues, know that pseudoephedrine is a stimulant (as well as caffeine of course).

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Also if you're on ADHD meds, which are also stimulants.

That was one jitery mess of a day, let me tell you.

I knew they were both stimulants, but I didn't stop to make the mental connection. All bunged up, sudafed, wait wtf why am I so ah fuck.

[-] DrRatso@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Or actifed, that one is OTC in my country, though expect to sleep due to the added tripolidine.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The last time I saw actifed otc here was the 90s and I'm not doing math or remembering that the last decade actually occurred

[-] PeachMan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are types of Sudafed that don't work and types that do.

Pseudoephedrine HCl is the original recipe, it's controlled in the US because people use it to make meth. So it's behind the counter at US pharmacies, and you usually have to show ID to make sure you're not buying too much.

Phenylephrine is the new stuff that's basically useless, it's not controlled because it basically does nothing. You can't use it to make meth, but it also doesn't work as a decongestant. It's called Sudafed PE.

I'm not sure about other countries but that's how it works in the US. If you're not showing ID to a pharmacist, you're not buying the good stuff.

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[-] otter@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago

For those in North America

paracetamol = acetaminophen (Tylenol)

[-] GARlactic@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

What exactly is a "man cold?"

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Its like a regular cold, butbwith more complaining.

[-] UtMan1988@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah that sounds about right

[-] synae 4 points 1 year ago

I never understood this- if i get a cold, I deny its existence and power through. Most of the time my wife doesn't even know I was sick.

[-] clegko@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Turns out you're actually a woman.

[-] konalt@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Cold that smells like Cool Sport Rush Wolf Power Machinery.

[-] adam@kbin.pieho.me 5 points 1 year ago

Somewhere south of "man flu" but north of "the sniffles"

[-] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

Yes, as others have said, it's paracetamol with some other stuff.

Something I've not seen mentioned yet however is to please be mindful that these do contain it and try to not take additional paracetamol (say, in tablet form) without watching your dose. Paracetamol overdose leads to some very nasty effects. Be careful not to exceed the daily dose of paracetamol, as stated in the product insert.

[-] Substance_P@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

In my country Lemsip Max Cold and Flu Capsules contain a few other ingredients, I'm not sure if they are the same with yours. They say they contain a combination of paracetamol, phenylephrine hydrochloride, and caffeine. I think that the combo helps with congestion as well, and obviously if it has caffeine, so it'll give you a buzz (never in a great way in my opinion) - Basic Paracetamol works for the pain and fever part. It is commonly used to alleviate symptoms such as headache, muscle aches, sore throat, and fever.

Hope you get better soon!

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

They say they contain a combination of paracetamol, phenylephrine hydrochloride, and caffeine.

Incidentally, the US FDA has just completed updated studies on phenylephrine, more rigorous than when it was first introduced, and determined that when taken orally it is fully metabolized before it makes it to the sinuses and is completely ineffective. It's going to disappear from shelves soon.

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Which is something anyone who needed psuedoephedrine but got phenylephrine could have told them decades ago.

[-] Substance_P@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Good to know and yes I've been seeing reports on this.

[-] clegko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~But they also found that phenylephrine works amazingly well when used as a nasal spray, which they didn't quite know before. ~~

Incorrect, see comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/4577725

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Do you have a source for that? My understanding is that the recent review looked only at oral usage and made no determination on its efficacy as a nasal spray.

[-] clegko@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recall reading it somewhere when the news was first coming out that it was useless as an oral medicine- lemme see if I can find it again.

Edit: I musta misread whatever news article it was - I just skimmed the actual release from the FDA and don't really mention the nose spray route at all. https://www.fda.gov/media/171972/download

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for checking!

[-] The_Mike_Drop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Resistentialism@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I may be wrong, but doesn't caffeine have actual benefits when taken with medical drugs? I always thought it gave them a bit of extra power. Well, maybe not directly giving them power, but like helping them be more efficient.

[-] DrMoronicAcid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Resistentialism@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Yay, I was right. Thank you. Friend.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It also has a phenylephrine which clears blocked nose and stuff.

If you don't have a sufficiently stuffed nose, paracetamol is cheaper.

[-] TheLight@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

Phenylephrine has been proven to not work when ingested orally (nasal spray delivery was not part of the study).

So Paracetamol is not only cheaper, it's the exact same therapeutic effect.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Thanks for catching that. I am not familiar with this product, so just went with the described contents. Frustrating that it is legal to sell.

[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Except that phenylephrine has been shown by multiple studies not to have any effect. It's only there as a replacement for pseudoephedrine, which does work, but can be used to make meth.

[-] wiccan2@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Pretty much, it's paracetamol, caffeine and a decongestant. All things that are normally cheaper as tablets.

See: https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/5620/smpc

I've always hated the taste of Lemsip because of the paracetamol, don't understand how people can stand it.

I just take some tablets and have a mug of hot lemon/honey, the hot drink helps with congestion and the honey soothes a sore throat. Lemsip just mashes it all up into one powder.

[-] erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

I already have one so it's fine. I believe it also contains a load of caffeine so you can be fully awake to appreciate your suffering. Honestly, Lemsip is shit. Just take a couple of paracetamol and drink some hot water, lemon juice and honey (with added whisky preferably).

[-] Devi@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

It's just nice. The hot lemon helps more than the paracetemol for me so sometimes I just make squash with hot water and it's not too different.

[-] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I assume from context that the “squash” you are referring to is not a gourd. Is it a beverage? Does it contain or is it served in a gourd?

[-] Skua@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

"Squash" is another word for cordial or diluting juice - that is, a concentrated fruit juice that you dilute with water to drink

[-] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

TIL thanks!

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[-] Backtrack3241@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago

How exactly does the hot lemon help you?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It’s the hot water that helps, mostly. The lemon makes it taste better.

Personally, I do a ginger infusion with lemon and honey in it. The lemon moderates some of the bite from ginger, and the stuff in ginger eases the symptoms.

(Note- slice or grate fresh ginger and boil or steep that in hot water. “ginger tea” bags that have been sitting on a shelf for who knows how long…. Not helpful.)

The honey also helps with coughs and sore throats, but mostly just by coating the throat. (Same, for example, as cough syrup.)

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Vitamin C is good for you. It's been found to reduce the time you're sick by 10%. It's better to consume it regularly before getting sick though, as it significantly reduces the risk of developing a cold.

[-] Devi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Clears your congestion which is what's causing the headache and stuffiness.

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